018) My Very Own Glass Slipper

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Not literally. My entry titles are often not literal.

Remember, though, how in Cinderella, the way they determined who she was, was by finding who the missing glass slipper belonged to. They determined that by trying to find who it was the "perfect fit" for.

Well, you may recall that I'd never been able to find gloves that fit until I couldn't find mens small and tried womens, finding that, for the first time in my life, I could actually understand the phrase "fits like a glove".

Well, on chat earlier today Kristen and I were talking about whether I should get clothes that fit in the misses dept, or try to find a reasonable match in the mens and belt them in. This led to a generalized mens fashion discussion, which led to men wearing heels, which led to shoe sizes, mens and womens, which led to me admitting that I wear my shoes too large in the toe in order to have room in the width...

I decided then, to actually measure my foot, and then consult an online sizing chart. I couldn't find even a close approximation in the mens chart, I'd have to wear a mens 7 4e, or 7 extra wide, and 7 wides aren't even made, let alone 7 extra wide. Shoot, finding 8 wides would be near impossible. Anyways, if such a shoe were to exist, it might be only slightly too big on me, but the dimensions would be close.

So I decided heck, I have womens hands, maybe I have womens feet. Consulted the womens chart, and found that my foot size was nearly ideally designed to fit in a womens 8.5 d, or 8.5 wide. At least according to the charts and my measurements.

So I went to the mall and tried on lots of shoes in all the various shoe stores, and came to the undeniable conclusion: My ideal shoe size is, indeed, womens 8.5 wide. Every single shoe, every single style, that I tried on in that size, fit my foot like a womens small glove. ;P

I hunted the mens shoes for something that approximated my measurements, and found absolutely nothing. 7 was indeed pretty close in the toe, but was far too narrow, 8 wides were clown shoes, 8.5 regular, as I've been wearing, almost fits in the width (slightly narrow yet), but has way too much toe room. 8.5 wides like I used to wear before I started to simultaneously lose weight and feminize, were really clown shoes.

Just like my girly hands, there's just no denying it, I also have girly feet. What makes this even stranger is that I had no trouble finding womens 8.5 d's, while finding mens 7's at all, 8 e's, or 8.5's has always been a task.

Not sure what to do about when I go bowling, alleys have always only carried, at least for mens, only regulars. Never asked for a womens size, obviously. But if they only carry womens sizes in regulars as well, guess when bowling I'll just have to deal with having entirely too much toe room. Mens 8.5 with only just over 10 inches will be marginally better for my just under 10 inch foot than womens 10 with 10.31 inches... And, if the alley doesn't carry half sizes either, which many don't... Men's 9's would still be marginally better than womens 10s. If they have wides in womens, but only whole sizes, a 9 wide is very very close.

Could see if I can find and buy bowling shoes that fit, I suppose... I've never really had a huge shoe collection, and I don't really go bowling that often, but then, I've never actually found a shoe size that actually fit before.

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fitting women's shoes

at least you would have an excuse to wear them in public, even it anybody cared enough to ask. I have the reverse problem. Its almost impossible to find nice girl shoes that fit my big feet that dont cost a bundle.

Dorothycolleen

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I would imagine...

That your problem would generally be the "normal" one for folks who transition. Everything seems to be pushing me towards female things, yet spiritually, I'm still not certain it'd be the right choice.

My feet, just like my hands, have always been an odd size for a guy...

I have had a lot of body hair, and still do, but it's starting to decrease, it already has substantially, I've gone from decidedly furry to fairly normal hair distribution so far. Though, even if it remains a little too much for a normal "woman", I'm planning to buy an electrolysis machine anyways. Easily solved.

My voice would likely be the only real challenge for me, I'm a baritone, does not easily convert to a feminine pitch or timbre. I understand they have surgeries to adjust this, but I'm sure they're expensive.

Of course, there's still the social and religious problems, but that's another topic entirely.

Abigail Drew.

buy bowling shoes

It's not like they go bad. Even if you only use them three or four times a years, they'll last twenty.


I'll get a life when it's proven and substantiated to be better than what I'm currently experiencing.

Owning your own athletic shoes?

Hope Eternal Reigns's picture

Hi Slice,

VERY good advice. When exerting oneself in an athletic activity is when the most stress is placed on the feet, consequently when the best fitting shoes are most important. Spending the icecream budget for the next few months on good footwear is sound reasoning when you enjoy a sport.

with love,

Hope

with love,

Hope

Once in a while I bare my soul, more often my soles bear me.

Ah, but...

What if my feet continue to narrow more and I end up in womens 8.5 medium at some point? ;P Making a pit-stop at mens 7 medium! rofl.

Yeah, I can definitely understand, if you can get a shoe that fits, get it. I've just never been in a position to actually consider trying to do so.

Abigail Drew.

You would be a medical miracle

Hope Eternal Reigns's picture

Hey Slice,

Feet actually grow as you age, not shrink. (Albeit very slowly - mostly the stretchability of leather accommodates the growth) I would think the only exception might be if you were losing a huge amount of weight. (And then shoes wouldn't be the only pieces of clothing you would be replacing.)

Having your own shoes would also bypass the whole idea of embarrassment at having to explain what type of shoes you want to some bowling-alley attendant.

with love,

Hope

with love,

Hope

Once in a while I bare my soul, more often my soles bear me.

feet do shrink a bit

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mine did when I transitioned, albeit only by a very small amount, and since i almost always bought shoes too narrow for my actual feet (hello, wishful thinking?) it was all for the best. anyway i think it was a combination of muscle loss, and weight loss, but i went from a women's 41.5 to a women's 41 in jimmy choo (that's from a 10 to a 9.5 in US sizing). not a big deal, but definitely some shrinkage. of course, i also went from 155lbs to 130lbs, and i'm 5'10", so i was seriously underweight, but whatever.

unfortunately i was in japan at the time, and couldn't find shoes to fit me anyway, so it was all a little bit academic.


not as think as i smart i am

This is what I mean by "pretty sure"...

Knowing my luck, I'll be an outlier and may very well find my feet getting narrower still. I seriously doubt it, and hope not though!

Abigail Drew.

And you DON'T consider one sixth of your body weight significant

Hope Eternal Reigns's picture

Hi Rebecca,

I would like to suggest that your feet lost volume more than that they lost shoe size. But I'll bet they looked pretty in those Jimmy Choos?

With love,

Hope

with love,

Hope

Once in a while I bare my soul, more often my soles bear me.

well, yeah (oops)

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yes, one-sixth is rather a lot, i must admit. i'm currently around 135lbs, but that's probably because i don't get as much exercise as i used to.

i suppose since feet are mostly bone it would be hard for them to shrink much, right?

and yes, i am a shoe junkie. i lean more toward louboutins these days since i got over my phobia about crossing the 6' barrier in very high heels. no apologies, except possibly to my visa card, and the parquetry floor in the foyer of the office where i work.


not as think as i smart i am

Haha.

I'm beginning to wonder if I'm not already.

And yeah, I was aware of the unlikelihood of my feet narrowing any more, I've already lost a great deal of weight and my feet really don't have anything left to lose. I was making a poor attempt at a joke.

While I was over 180 lbs, my weight was distributed all over my body fairly evenly, slightly pudgy face, but not too much, slight belly, but not too much, slightly fatty feet, etc.

Now my weight distribution, while also being less (getting mighty close to 140 lbs!), is also tending more towards my hips than anything.

Yeah, fairly sure that womens 8.5 d, maybe 9 d shoe size will be my shoe size for quite a while.

Abigail Drew.

As far as that goes?

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018) My Very Own Glass Slipper

Funny, last time that I went bowling, kept my shoes on. Guess my athletics were good enough.

    Stanman
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    Stanman
May Your Light Forever Shine

Stanman,

That's strange, at least around here they insist your wear proper bowling shoes, and even rent them to you if you don't bring your own.

They don't like having normal athletic shoes marking up their floors.

Abigail Drew.

Slice, Same For Me

I always had trouble with men's shoes. I have a wimyn's narrow heal and medium forefoot. I also have high arches which put my weight on my heals and metatarsal bones. My metatarsals would get very sore and swollen. I had some hard orthotics as a teen, then made my own by taping or gluing together dense foam or cut up Dr. Shoals (sp?) type shoe inserts. As an adult I often walked a lot at my job; I had an cubical in one building and machinery I was modifying/whatever two buildings away.

Almost every shoe I tried hurt my feet, even with orthotics; stiff more formal shoes like wing-tips were the worst. When I finally tried wimyn's shoes (only a few years before I transitioned), I was amazed at how well they fit. High heals would make my metatarsals sore after walking much, because of how they shifted my weight forward, but flats or low heals fit very well. I could wear some with no orthotics or padding at all.

My feet were biggest when I was 17 or 18 and slowly shrunk after that. I had 9.5 mens as a young adult, which went down to 9 or 8.5 in my late thirties, or maybe sizes got larger. I was wearing 10 or 10.5 wimyn's when I first transitioned, but in the last 5 years, 9.5s seem to fit best. All the wimyn's shoes I've bought have been mediums.

I always thought that 8.5 was quite a small size for someone 6' tall; some guys much shorter than me had like size 13 feet! Now, 10 seems about average for wimyn my height, 5' 11". My sister, who was 5' 9.5" or 5' 10" at her max, always wore size 8 double narrow.

Hugs and Bright Blessings,
Renee

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Hugs and Bright Blessings,
Renee

I just noticed something else...

With my mens 8.5 medium athletics that I've been wearing, I wear them laced extremely loose in the forefoot, and extremely tight closer to the heel. With my womens 8.5 wide athletics I just recently bought and only wear for casual use (my mens are relegated to work trash), I lace them up evenly the entire way.

Very interesting indeed...

Abigail Drew.

Abigail Drew.