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AGD
The After-effects of Chemically Induced Acute Gonadal Dysfunction
A Scientific Paper (of a sort)
By Maryanne Peters NSD MN (Hons)

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The above is an extract from a story that appeared in the Des Moines Register on April 1st 2018. The publication date made many readers consider the story a prank, but among medical researchers the presence of Acute Gonadal Dysfunction is well known, although research is limited by its rarity.

Some three years before this article appeared the presence of four cases in the state of Iowa led researchers to isolate the cause as being a chemical spill into the water supply of the small town of Townshend in the Southeast of the state. A tanker operated by the pharmaceutical giant GenCo had missed a bend on the ridge above the catchment valley and a large amount of waste material marked for disposal had been discharged into the water quite near the collection point. As a result for only a few hours before the contamination was identified, the town water supply contained high amounts of an advanced form of the pesticide component atrazine, a chemical know to effect hormones in vertebrates (see references below). This chemical was unaffected by local water supply purification processes.

Several people ingested the water and those people were identified following symptoms becoming apparent. The most significant symptoms were only indicated in the male population. Adult males exhibited some breast growth and body hair loss in ensuing weeks, but these effects abated over time.

The most drastic effect was on the four boys the subject of this study, who were pre-pubescent at the time of the ingestion of the contaminated water.

Subject A

While other subjects are referred to by pseudonyms, Subject A has already been identified in the above article as Kyle now Kayla Peterson, a resident of Townshend. As also referred to in the item, because of religious convictions the family of this subject did not seek medical intervention so that the changes brought about by the chemical were allowed to proceed unhindered.

The resulting changes are scientifically remarkable. As well as breast growth the male genitals have all but disappeared in a manner consistent with congenital persistent Mullerian duct syndrome (PMDS), with cryptorchidism [undescended testes] and a radical deformation of the prostatic utricle into a true “vagina masculina”.

The response of the subject’s parents was to urge the youth to adopt a feminine lifestyle in accordance with the physical changes being “a gift from God”. The parents believe that the changes will be total over time and that Kayla will be a fully functioning female in due course, although conventional science must rule this out as a possibility.

Kayla has been accepting of the situation, largely because of medical advice that these changes are progressive and that the only possible remediation would be surgical, which her parents would never consent to. She used the phrase: “I suppose I have to give it a shot”. She has grown out her hair and wears only female clothing, although favoring pants.

She described a period of uncertainty and reluctance that caused her great concern. But her parents encouraged her to “follow the plan God has for you.” She made the effort and presented then as she does now, as a very attractive young woman. She developed a special relationship with a young man she has known for some time and with whom she played sport with as a boy.

I interviewed this young man who confirms that he regards himself as her boyfriend. He appears completely accepting of Kayla as female. He explained that he had known the boy as Kyle for many years and they had been close, but the changes had resulted in them initially becoming distanced. Then, as he explained it: “I looked across at her and realized that she was hot”.

While Kayla did not share the same details of it, he claims that they have vaginal sex regularly and that it is more than satisfactory. Apparently, Kayla is able to receive him fully. I have no reason to believe that his phallus is not of normal proportions although I did not request to examine him.

There is nothing in Kayla’s appearance that would lead one to believe that she was anything other than a young woman, and she appears to relish this new identity. She explained that she has had time to come to terms with her situation and with the support of her parents and her now boyfriend, she is determined to be positive. As she put it: “I was just coping and then (her boyfriend) came along and while I may have been a reluctant girl, I love being his girlfriend”.

Her parents too, seem entirely comfortable with the changes to their child, after an initial period of shock. They regret the earlier publicity and would prefer that Kayla be allowed to live her life as a woman, and they hope as a wife and mother, in private. They are convinced that she will give them grandchildren and I was not about to disabuse them of that prospect.

Subject B

This young person, whom I shall refer to as Janet, is also a resident of Townshend with similar symptoms, but has not been accepting of the drastic changes to her body. Janet’s parents sought medical help from the early stages but in accordance with accepted modern medical practice in relation to genital disorders in young people, restorative surgery was not recommended, and early treatments were limited to drugs. There was no response to estrogen blockers or to massive doses of male hormones. This is not uncommon with AGD.

For the three years in which Subject A went from male to accepting female, Subject B continued to live as a male through an effective female puberty, hiding the developing breasts and placing stuffing in the crotch of her pants. But without any body hair or deepening voice, the fact of the female development was difficult to hide, in particular when the circumstances of Subject A were known to all locally.

By the time of the publication of the above article Janet was not yet 16 but there was already discussion taking place regarding surgical options. Given the lack of response to drugs it seemed to advising physicians that a successful transition to an adult male (or a return to maleness) would be unlikely to be successful. Her situation was very different from a female to male transsexual, and this was something that she needed to come to terms with.

At the time that I interviewed Janet she was living as a woman in a stable relationship with a genetic woman who is accepting of her body. Janet has adopted a female name so that she can present as a lesbian without disclosing any disorder, and to tant extent she is accepting of the changes. However, she remains of an essentially masculine nature.

She agreed to a physical examination. Like Subject A she has well formed breasts, a female body shape, no external organs and a very deep prostatic utricle that may well function as a vagina just as it does for Subject A, should that be required in a lesbian relationship.

Her sexual partner declined to be interviewed, but did say to me: “being a woman is wonderful and I hope that, with my help, she will come to know that in time.”

Subject C

Roberta (or Robert as he was then) was visiting Townshend from Bloomington IL at the time the contaminated water was consumed. For that reason, the diagnosis of Acute Gonadal Dysfunction was delayed on the assumption by her doctor that this was a boy with simple gynecomastia. It was only when the testicles disappeared up into the inguinal canal that the attending physicians made the link with the Townshend water contamination.

Roberta frankly admits that she was confused. But she was an outgoing and practical person and found that a way of adjusting to her circumstances was to accept the rejection of her male peers as her appearance changed to that of a young woman, and instead find company among the female students at her school. It was that new circle of friends that directed her towards an acceptance that the feminine gender as offering her the best opportunity for a future.

Her attitude was pragmatic. Once she understood that a reassignment back to a male gender would involve hurdles beyond even that of a female to male transsexual, she saw the difficulties as being significant. She remarked: “I can live with who I am now. In fact, it is kind of fun.”

Certainly, Roberta is attractive and she appears to be very popular at school where she is active in dance and cheerleading. My understanding is that she is sought after by fellow students of both sexes for her enthusiasm and good humor.

Roberta remains not in a relationship with any person at present, but she is clearly interested in men sexually. One statement she made was: “The only girls who are interested in me are not my type, but the guys are just the kind of people I like.”

She appears ambitious and claims to have little time for romance. She intends working in women’s fashion after graduation and she has a wide group of female friends who share her interest in this industry. While not qualified on this subject her clothing choice would appear colorful and avant-garde and designed to show off a body that is definitely female in appearance.

I also interviewed Roberta’s younger brother whom I will call Andrew. He was a witness to the changes in his brother whom he frankly admitted he worshipped as a hero to him growing up. He told me that Robert had been an achiever and a natural sportsman, but Roberta could now barely throw a ball should she want to. This young man is very confused and even admitted to sexual fantasies about his older sister, which probably reflects the fact that she is “a new arrival” and without the presence of the incest taboo that one would expect in a conventional family.

When submitting to a physical examination Roberta did ask about whether she might be able to become a mother when (rather than if) she finds the right man. I was ready to explain to her that this must remain a scientific impossibility, but I must confess that after the third examination of a subject in this study, and given the same incredible transformation of genitals both externally and internally in all three of them, I rather declined to rule out the possibility.

Subject D

This is a young woman (now) living in Michigan, her family having removed her from Townshend to leave behind bad memories associated with the drastic changes brought about the contaminated water.

This is a person who wrestled with the changes. She adopted a gender neutral name so I will call her Jordan. Being an only child, unlike the other subjects, and being the focus of her parent’s attention they were prepared to move homes to help her to adjust to the effects of the poisoning.

Because of the effects of the chemicals, the physical changes and lack of response to hormone therapies, she found it hard to adjust to life as a young man in an ongoing state of prepubescence. Matters were made worse by substantial breast growth – more than other subjects.

The family moved to another town where it was assumed that Jordan was female, and this seemed to allow for less estrangement. But Jordan remained a loner, and spent much time hiking and camping in the woods on her own. It was on one of those excursions that she met her husband whom I shall call Ken. It appears that they found themselves stuck in a cabin during a snowstorm, and this led to intimacy and eventually to a proposal.

Ken remains unaware of Jordan’s past, but she disclosed to her fiancé that she was very likely infertile due to “a birth defect”. However, my physical examination of this subject disclosed some remarkable internal developments that I had not explored with the other subjects, and in particular what appears to be a cervix at the top of the “vaginal” passage.

It appears that by the time of the wedding Jordan had abandoned her gender neutral clothing and lifestyle as her parents proudly displayed the wedding album of their buxom daughter in full bridal gown, hair and makeup and smiling at her husband. She now presents as very feminine although she says that she remains essentially “an outdoor kind of girl”, something her husband clearly approves of.

Her father did pull me aside to question me about the study and whether the chemical that had brought about these drastic changes in his child was still in existence. I pointed out that this batch had been a highly unstable synthetic chemical that had arisen in unknown circumstances and had therefore been dispatched away from the laboratory for safe disposal – that was the tanker that crashed.

He was very disappointed. He explained to me that he was, and always had been, a transgender person who had watched the changes in his then son with some envy. He said that the changes had been so total and that his new daughter was now living the life that he craved so much, that he would pay almost anything to drink that original contaminated Townshend water.

While the chemistry is beyond the scope of this study, it did leave me curious as to whether the processes might be replicated in a way to synthesize the same compound. Certainly the judicious use of it to promote Chemically Induced Acute Gonadal Dysfunction may have some commercial applications.

References:
1. “Atrazine can turn male frogs into females” https://news.berkeley.edu/2010/03/01/frogs/
2. “Atrazine induces feminization” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2842049/

© Maryanne Peters 2020

Author’s Note:
I was prompted to post this after I ranted a little on a blog here last night about the poor quality of a science paper. I hope that I have shown here that anybody can write this stuff, and maybe better?

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My Blog Rant

What I referred to in my note was in relation to a blog titled: "Gene variants provide insight into brain, body incongruence in transgender ..."
I blogged:
"A Satisfying Answer?
I am concerned about the science here.
These samples are very small. Our condition has now been recognized for decades. We have had studies of the brains of deceased transwomen and know that there are not only biochemical but physiological "variants".
So this is caused by "sprinkling"?! I am sorry, this sounds facile to me. And how does "sprinkling" occur after birth? Identical twins are mentioned, but not the case I have heard of where one was trans and the other was not. What is really going on here? Has this tiny study couched in very unscientific language really offering a "satisfying answer at long last".
Gender dysphoria is described as "The negative emotional experience associated with this incongruence" - What?!
For my part, I understand that I am one of those affected by my mother taking Diethylstilbestrol (DES) following a miscarriage before I was conceived. The facts there are over whelming. It would indicate a biochemical origin. "Sprinkling"?!
Honestly, I believe in science as a rule, but this is garbage.
Maryanne"

Blogs about science, are not sciencific research

Uhuru N'Uru's picture

Their seem to be many "Blog posts" written about this subject as far as I can see the actual source "Blog", they all reference, or regurgitate with varying degrees of accuracy, is this article
Gene variants provide insight into brain, body incongruence in transgender – Jagwire

May have been
The report states very clearly, at the start that none of this report is conclusive evidence, only the first promising results, in a field where little research has yet been done.

Some of the first biological evidence of the incongruence transgender individuals experience, because their brain indicates they are one sex and their body another, may have been found in estrogen receptor pathways in the brain of 30 transgender individuals.

Essentially, it's highlighting interesting results, that need further study, nothing more, nothing less.

"Sprinklng"
Then we come to the word that has you so vexed. "Sprinklng", lets look at that, in context.

Basically — and perhaps counterintuitively — these genes are primarily involved in estrogen’s critical sprinkling of the brain right before or after birth, which is essential to masculinization of the brain.

I see nothing to get so "Vexed" about, in an article that's intended to give a "Basic" overview of complex genetic processes, the writer has selected a descriptive word, to present a basic overview of the actual science, intended for those that don't understand the science.

The real science
The actual scientific article is published on nature.com, Nature is one of the most respected scientific peer reviewed journals, in the world.
The Use of Whole Exome Sequencing in a Cohort of Transgender Individuals to Identify Rare Genetic Variants | Scientific Reports

If you want a PDF version, of the scientific article
The Use of Whole Exome Sequencing in a Cohort of Transgender Individuals to Identify Rare Genetic Variants | Scientific Reports [PDF]

Web, or PDF you better have a very good grasp of the current state of genetic research, because this is the actual science, and understanding actual science, from scratch, means reading 61 references this paper uses (and all there references), as supporting evidence.
, or
Go the laymen's route, and accept the "blog" has shortened all that complicated genetic "Gobbledegook", to the simple word "Sprinkling", a word never used in the actual science, but it can give you a simple, and basic mental picture of the basics.

Genetic trigger, causes a biochemical process
Lastly we come to the unproven belief, of many transgender people that Diethylstilbestrol (DES), has "caused your affliction".
A common human wish to find something to blame for the reason, I'm not not like everybody else, i.e, "Normal".
I find the actual scientific evidence circumstantial at best, but ignoring any proof requirements, for the sake of debate, lets assume this belief is actually correct, and that drug caused you to be transgender, does that automatically make this study wrong?

No not in any way whatsoever. Even assuming this drug caused You to be transgender "before you was conceived"

This study attempts to explain the possible cause of the process, that occurs with a developing brain, when the brain develops into the opposite gender to the bodies genetic sex, though the genetic variants it discusses, are suggested as the potential triggers for that process, the process itself is actually biochemical, and may also be exactly the same process your drug can cause, without you having any of those genetic triggers.

These are not mutually exclusive, and clearly not the be all, and end all of being transgender.
Drug, or genetic variants, are only relevant to the XX/XY gene types of typical male/female biology, and neither say anything about the vast array of rare intersex variants, with various combinations of three, or more sex chromosomes.

Being Trans… is complicated
It says nothing of males that choose surgery to appear feminine, but don't "wish to become girls", and intend retain fully functioning male genitalia.
It says nothing of males that choose hormones to appear feminine, but don't "wish to become girls", and intend retain dysfunctional male genitalia.
It says nothing of males that choose a combination of surgery, and hormones to appear feminine, but don't "wish to become girls".

By "Wish to become girls", I specifically mean have genital surgery (SRS), not the desire to be feminine, in appearance, and behaviour.

I don't really no much about female to male transgender issues, except it's statistically rarer than Male to Female, but I'd assume they have similar variations.

Being Trans… is complicated, and always will be, their will never be a simple answer, to the question "Why Am I Trans…"
Some may find their answer is of genetic nature, some may find there answer is of a chemical nature.
Others may find their answer is purely nurture, whether deliberate caused by the abuse of another (parent/peer), or accidental caused by circumstance.
Some my find each of the above, contributed to their complete answer in varying degrees, but most of us will never really know for sure.
Being Trans… is complicated, there is no magic bullet solution, to explain why, that can fit all of us.


Dark Elven Sissy Slut – Uhuru N’Uru

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The requested page "/topshelf/blog-entry/87998/gene-variants-provide-insight-into-brain-body-incongruence-transgender" could not be found.

No link exists to that url, so why

Uhuru N'Uru's picture

Did you expect the blog post to have that title, or even be on BCTS, when Maryanne Peters said this

What I referred to in my note was in relation to a blog titled: "Gene variants provide insight into brain, body incongruence in transgender ..."
I blogged:
"A Satisfying Answer?
I am concerned about the science here.
…"

If anything I'd expect her "blog" response was titled "A Satisfying Answer?".
Going off the way it's worded above, it was most likely posted as reply comment on one of the many blog reposts of the original article I linked to.
There were many reposts, in my search query, I just followed links to the source material, provided on the first one I looked at.


Dark Elven Sissy Slut – Uhuru N’Uru

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littlerocksilver's picture

I see hope for the future among these lucky victims. I think they are making the best possible for themselves out of a rather unique situation.

Portia

Two Points

Uhuru N'Uru's picture

Not sure if you're being serious here, so;

Taking it at face value
Not Lucky, none of the victims were transgender, none of them wanted to be girls, they were extremely unlucky.
No matter how much you, or I would desire to drink this water, they did not get a choice, or they would have chosen NOT to drink.

With only a little research, of the picture's contents
If this report was ever actually published in a newspaper, it's presented here in the standard style used by caption makers.
It could be fake, but even if we accept it was published, as claimed let's look at the evidence in the report.

Des Moines Register – Exists as a real newspaper
April 1st 2018 – The date makes it a potential fake April Fools article.
Townshend, IA – This town is fake, no such town exists in the state of Iowa, closest Townshend
Atrazine can turn male frogs into females – This is the only source, and amphibians, are not mammals.

The date, and fake town, alone are proof this was a classic April's fool article, using a known trait of amphibians (changing sex), with a known chemical trigger for inducing that effect, and switching it to humans is typical prank logic, not science.

Conclusion, if this did appear in the Des Moines Register, it was an April Fool's Article.
The subsequent "Interview the victims years later" story, is fiction, but it wasn't claiming otherwise, so no problem there.


Dark Elven Sissy Slut – Uhuru N’Uru

Fiction, not Science

My thanks to Uhuru N'Uru for the references to the science.
This "article" was a captioned image sent to me by db543 (who has published here) and my first reaction was that "I don't do magic".
But then I just thought about how I could turn it into some plausible science. Here is an extract from our hangouts chat:
MP "The disorder is more than fiction - it defies science. Which is why I had to do it as a science paper - if that makes sense. I put the stuff at the end about gender changing frogs to give it some basis"
db: "But amphibians are a lower form of life - right ... but this is a story where hormones pollute water and turn guys into girls"
MP "This would requirement chromosomal modifcation"
db "I know you want to be rational but you have to accept that the story is a little far fetched"
MP "Exactly. Like the frogs ... Far fetched - yes. This is as close to magic as I am prepared to go ... But the techno babble is the key here. The anatomy lesson and the footnotes"
db: Do you think the majority of people click on it? i think probably not"
MP "Let me publish it and we will find out!"
But I am a little disappointed that you did not go into the anatomy babble: "the male genitals have all but disappeared in a manner consistent with congenital persistent Mullerian duct syndrome (PMDS), with cryptorchidism [undescended testes] and a radical deformation of the prostatic utricle into a true 'vagina masculina'." This stuff is real.
The atrazine was just to show that a chemical spill can produce sexual abnormalities.
Don't worry, this is fiction, but the science is intended to make it plausible.
As for DES I am not blaming anybody for the way I am, least of all my mother who still mourned her miscarried child until the day she died.
The point of mentioning it was to confirm that, based on a much wider sampling, it appears that biochemistry has a role to play in some transgender conditions.
Were any of the people in this story TG? Obviously one at the end - the father. But did the others acquire TG through biochemistry?
I like my stories to be thought provoking, so I adore comments like yours!
Maryanne

I had no issues with your story

Uhuru N'Uru's picture

It ws marked as fiction, so I accepted the obvious bad science, in that vein. It's science fiction, and bad science is fine in that context.

The Picture's content is another matter
It was my uncertainty over whether littlerocksilver was taking your inspiration Des Moines Register article, as literal fact, that prompted me to fact check that articles content, and I pointed out it's obvious, and deliberately created flaws.
Flaws used by the newspaper to make sure it should not be taken too seriously, and tactics which have become standard procedure, to cover any newspaper from any legal fallout from April Fool articles,

Example
Using a fake town, meaning no real town council can come after them in the courts, or worse these days, on Twitter.

The rant quote, on the other hand
That got a more detailed response, all of it's own, I'll only add;
The science, (it's good science) indicates potential genetic triggers to start the biochemical process.
Everything hormones do to us, is a biochemical process, but that biochemistry is usually triggered by genetics, when everything works correctly.
Genetics triggers working incorrectly is always the most likely cause of any unexpected effects, but it doesn't make it the only possible cause.
Even when genetic triggers are found, it doesn't rule out the possibility of other causes, having the same effect (like DES).

Caveat, I haven't read your "A Satisfying Answer?" rant, only your post here about it.


Dark Elven Sissy Slut – Uhuru N’Uru

To quote

Bill Bryson,
"I come from Des Moines. Well, someone has to..."

I went to DM once for a Conference. Several locals said 'why the hell did you come here?'.

Samantha

Sounds like...

SammyC's picture

they really liked that Firewater. Seriously, the myth of Native Americans and alcoholism supposedly introduced by Europeans has been disproved by modern historians. Fermented corn and yucca was drunk way before the European onslaught. On a tangent, are there any stories on this site about "two-spirit" Native Americans?

Sammy

Thanks

SammyC's picture

I’ll put those on my reading list!

Sammy

Another interesting experiment

SammyC's picture

First off, I must say I'm often taken in by April Fools' gambits like this. I'm such a naif. But, more to the point, I found this short piece yet another example of your writing skill. That you could coax a veritable tome of a comment from a reader very seriously debating the "scientific" pretexts of the "article" is solid proof of that. Again, here's something you could expand into quite an entertaining if somewhat sardonic longer piece. I get the impression that you avoid longer pieces because you're besieged by so many ideas that you want to explore. Good ideas. Some of which deserve further exploration. You are prolific to say the least. And I envy your fecundity of imagination. Keep on keeping on!

Sammy

Fiction Fiction Fiction

Just for the record (IMHO)
1. This is not an article, it is a cap. It is fiction.
2. Chemicals do not turn boys into girls - fiction.
3. I wrote this as a scientific paper as a device. Scientific papers use big words, mumblefuck phrases and have footnotes. But I could not resist doing a little research and putting some real stuff in here. congenital persistent Mullerian duct syndrome (PMDS) is a real thing, and the prostatic utricle being “vagina masculina” is real anatomy. Isn't fiction of the science kind so much better with some plausibility? But ... fiction.
I know people ask me for longer stories, but with the new genre (fake science for my readers amusement) more words might defeat the device and get me embroiled in even more critical analysis of my science!!
Maryanne

friendly, friendly, friendly

A friendly place to read, write and discuss Transgender Fiction.

Whoops

I did not mean the tone of my last comment to be unfriendly.
I can assure you that every time I write comments on this site, even my rants, I have a smile on my face!
Maryanne

In reference to DES.

Hypatia Littlewings's picture

I am a "DES Son". Personally I am rather ambiguous on both gender and orientation, or you could just say confused. In any case, I am what I am, whatever the cause. I am actually more concerned about possible medical problems, which is just as poorly understood for "sons" as the gender identity implications are.

Oddly in one article I came across a rather mind boggling comment, "...reported a gender identity not conforming to that assigned at birth, preventing meaningful analysis", Duh!

Supposedly some newer studies are underway. As far as I could find, current info is inconstant or inconclusive(note, I have looked before). Any further result wont likely be know for years.