Egalitarian Society

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This is by definition not "egalitarian."

As egalitarian means that all people are equal and have equal rights, the only way that it would be "egalitarian" is if women didn't count as people at all. Likewise, machines "fixing" all conflict is a nightmare in this context, NOT a dream -- it's a control method to force one to conform, not a way to help one be more free.

This is a dystopian hellscape.

Melanie E.

Egalitarian...

Perhaps my definition of the word is wider than yours? Or, perhaps I need to choose another word?

Having seen the havoc brought by the ERA (Women's Equal Rights Amendment), and been raised by the worst kind of man and a criminal to boot, perhaps my perspective is different? I hope this blog is a prequel to a story I am working on now that will explain my thinking. :)

A "utopia" where women have no rights?

laika's picture

FUCK THAT SHIT!!!

So basically a right wing fascist wet dream of a paternalistic patriarchy.
What kind of happiness can be provided without basic freedom?

I'm all for submission or even slavery as a kink, a pretend game;
but as an all-encompassing inescapable social institution
it's an absolute evil + I'd fucking kill myself
before submitting to some man's rule.
The Road to Hell is paved with
"We know what's best for you"...

And how could the Equal Rights Amendment wreak havoc
when it's still only a proposed constitutional amendment?
(which I did some volunteer work for back in the 80s
and would love to see pass)
~hugs, Veronica

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"Government will only recognize 2 genders, male + female,
as assigned at birth-" (In his own words:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1lugbpMKDU

I didn't want to hurt your feelings Gwen

laika's picture

but unless I'm seriously misreading this blog I just don't see any way
half the population having "no rights" can ever be a good thing.
I mean... Iran, Afganistan etc are total nightmares
of male supremacist theocratic oppression.

Some women might want to live like that and they're welcome to it but
the ones that don't want that suffer horribly (Remember Malala, shot in the head
for simply wanting an education???) because a bunch of disgusting limp-dick pigfucker
males can't handle a free democracy society where they don't have total control over everyone
+ everything, being the cowardly macho pukes they are. And I'm supposed to hand all my precious autonomy over to THEM?!!?

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"Government will only recognize 2 genders, male + female,
as assigned at birth-" (In his own words:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1lugbpMKDU

Too many hot heads

I asked for a chance to fully explain my position in an upcoming short story but no one will listen. I will Now delete this blog if I can. I wonder if publishing anything on this site is worth the trouble? I either get no kudos or comments, or I ignite a brush fire. Can't win.

This was a Blog about a fictitious short story. I took license with the premise. Some of you just need to get over yourselves. You crossed the line here. You need to get over yourselves!

You should post the story

You should post the story. I can't say I'll read it, or comment, I don't know yet. I've been focused on writing for the past while so haven't been reading much of anything. In general stories give far more space to explore something than a quick blog, especially as fiction authors.

I'm writing a dystopia/utopia with Allison Zero. It starts off showing things are pretty bad for women, at least according to how we understand ourselves now, however as the chapters have gone on I think people are slowly beginning to see there are "forces" at work that underpin why things are the way they are. By the end of Book 1 I want people to understand why the society is the way it is, and why it works the way it does.

Whether it's a society you or I would be happy to live in is a different matter. That's for each reader to decide themselves. I don't think it's our responsibility—as authors—to show societies we aim to have for ourselves in fiction; rather it's an opportunity to show how a society could be, and let readers take from it what they will—you can't control readers. For me sci-fi is about exploration, whether that's exploring the stars, potential aliens, technology, or humanity itself doesn't really matter. And part of exploration is understanding that not everything necessarily is good or will be good, and that what we want now might not be what people want in the future. Certainly what people wanted in the past isn't the same as what we want now. People change as much as our circumstances, however much we like to think there's a universal truth.

In Allison Zero I'm pretty much, to sum up (part of) the theory, exploring what people would sacrifice in terms for freedom and control for a large degree of happiness and contentment. And (to reveal things) who gets to decide that. I think that's a fundamental question a lot of dystopic fiction has asked. It's definitely worth dealing with in fiction as we see a lot of the control we thought we had in society, as democracies, being eroded, or was possibly an illusion all along.