What pisses me off is the way they ask the questions.
"biological men dressed as women should be able to use changing rooms with young females." WHY "young" females? Are they saying it's ok with older females. Clearly this meant to cause an emotional response.
"biological men dressed as women" doesn't mean trans women. This could be a pantomime"dame".
I wonder what the response would be if they had said trans women, instead of biological men dressed as women?
Most parties ‘cowardly’ on trans question says TUV after SDLP councillor takes a stand on issue
Feminist campaigners sent a number of questions related to safe spaces for women and girls to all the parties taking part in the Assembly election including one from Standing for Women Northern Ireland(SFWNI) which asked them if biological men dressed as women should be able to use changing rooms with young females.
© SDLP candidate Charlotte Carson spoke out on the trans question
Earlier this week the News Letter revealed the results of a survey by SFWNI of all Assembly candidates which revealed that everyone standing for Alliance, Sinn Fein, the SDLP, Greens, People Before Profit and other small leftist parties were in the category of “Didn’t Care to Answer” to the question.
Individual candidates from all of the main unionist parties did respond by answering “No” to the question.
On Thursday a sole SDLP candidate, Charlotte Carson in East Belfast, broke ranks said “No” to the same question if it concerned those still with male genitalia entering young females communal changing areas.
The survey was released at the same time as billboards were erected this week by the Women’s Rights Network Northern Ireland between the M2 and M3 motorways in central Belfast asking candidates: “What is a Woman?”
TUV candidate for Lagan Valley Lorna Smyth said that if some politicians in Northern Ireland cannot define what even a woman is then they are unfit to govern.
“Pre-schoolers can tell the difference between men and women. Should we really have people aspiring for public office who do not?” Ms Smyth said.
She continued: “A woman is an adult female and her sex is determined at birth. Sex is real, and it is immutable.
“We have single sex spaces in society for very good reasons and I find it disturbing that this matter is even up for debate. The cowardly response of those who refuse to be drawn on basic questions has profound ramifications not least for female sport.”
"“Pre-schoolers can tell the difference between men and women." I think if they saw most trans women they would think that they were women. I'm sure that these idiot feminists think most trans women are bearded lumberjacks in a dress and hiking boots.
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It's all politicking
and we're a small vulnerable group and easy meat for TERF attacks. If people sat down and talked calmly it could all be sorted. Instead, being NI it will get excited and emotional and achieve nothing except further alienation of different groups. If people sit and talk, anything can be resolved, but those with unreasonable demands will never do so because then they will be unmasked and lose the argument and thus prefer to stir the pot and upset others.
Angharad
What really got to me was the
What really got to me was the way it was phrased. "men dressed as women". if you google that you get this
A guy with a beard in a dress.
It like saying would you like men and women with guns roaming the street? Probably the answer would be no .
Well the same question, men and women police officers with guns roaming the street? possible yes.
(not in the UK, we have enough trouble with knives)
Leeanna
It's all a bit 'Yes Minister'
It's all a bit 'Yes Minister', isn't it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA&ab_channel=LimeXd
think that they were women
You wrote, "'Pre-schoolers can tell the difference between men and women.' I think if they saw most trans women they would think that they were women."
In support of your argument: I drive school bus in a small town in Oregon (USA) I am on HRT, but still very much male bodied. I wear my hair (long enough to reach my bra strap) with the sides held back at the crown of my head with a nondescript small barrette. For clothing - from the skin out - panties, bra (with C cup breast forms [I wear them everywhere even to church]) plain camisole, women's jeans, woman's polo shirt. I'm wearing totally women's clothes, but from the butch side of my wardrobe. Dressed like that, I can pass for an average American male. -- My wife is very sensitive about people being able to tell that I'm trans and won't appear in public with me in my girly-girl mode and this outfit is on the approved for public consumption list. -- My employer sees me as male, since all my documents list me as such. And I'm sure that all the staff at the school do as well.
As a school bus driver, every year we have to do a bus evacuation drill where in we take the buses to the school and then have all the student, even the ones who don't regularly ride the bus, on the buses and we got through the bus rules and emergency procedures. This is done first with the older students (middle school/high school) then K through fifth grade students.
During one such evacuation drill with the younger students I had one very young student (a girl, I'd guess no older than first grade) who kept raising her hand and was persistent even when I told her that I'd answer questions at the end.
When I relented and let her speak, she said, "You had me fooled. I thought you were a lady, but you're a man." My voice is pretty masculine when I raise it to speak to the back of an 80 passenger bus.
Hugs
Patricia
Happiness is being all dressed up and HAVING some place to go.
Semper in femineo gerunt
Ich bin eine Mann
I understand that. When I was
I understand that. When I was 4 I thought the only difference between men and women were that women had bumps on their chest, long hair and wore nicer clothes. I asked my mum if I could be a girl. When she said no you're a boy I didn't understand why I couldn't.
Pre-school children don't or shouldn't know about anatomy.
Leeanna