Jazz. What do you make of this story?

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I think that anyone who wants to can follow the "Jazz Story", and it seems to me like there is a lot of hype going on, but to be fair, perhaps she is having problems?

I have never seen a Trans girl look as good and sound as good as her. Is that what a lot of coaching and surgery can do or is she actually Intersex? At any rate, I wish her the best.

I notice that she is going back to surgery... Mine was 12 years ago, so I don't remember much ... so it seemed like a breeze then to me. I missed my second surgery for labial lips and such because they were not honest with me. So, are usual SRS operations sort of two steps, or is there really a problem? Is this more BS from the film company money grubbers?

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It was supposedly a

It was supposedly a complication from her initial surgery that they had to go back and fix. But given that it's a reality show and there was little news about her after she revealed that she had her surgery it's mostly hype and not actually as bad as it seems.

And as for her looking so good? Blockers and genetics. She's been in transition since she was at least four, five at most, so she never had the chance to develop any masculine body. If you have seen her sister and grandmother then you can see that the females in her family aren't that big and at this point she looks just like her sister did three years ago when they started filming the show. She's not intersexed, just has a lot of genes going her way to give her a naturally feminine body.

I'm told STFU more times in a day than most people get told in a lifetime

I read or heard about her

I read or heard about her somewhere, can't remember where. But due to her early (pre-puberty) transition, and blockers, that she didn't have enough... tissue if you will, to do the surgery properly. So the complications could be a result of that. However, due to the fact she did not go through male puberty (as far as I know), is how she got the results she has gotten as far as looks. Kind of a cruel double-edged sword if you ask me.

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Insufficient Vaginal Tissue

There was concern about that with me because I'd had a castration about 3 years before SRS. That was not really an issue because I could never get my head around actually having intercourse with a male. At my present age, it is not important. I wonder if they will do an intestinal excision to get the vaginal tissue?

I wish her the best.

Gwen

her issue

Teresa L.'s picture

was that being on blockers she never had much penile growth, so she had little tissue to work with there? assuming the tissue is there from yours, it should not be an issue. the paratenium lining (this is a "bag" that surrounds your stomach and organs basically) is considered to be a more natural substitute, heals very fast, has no hair growth, etc. there were also comments about it being able to self lubricate, but its still in the "experimental" category I believe. the doctor in the show "invented" it, based off of a procedure used in China to repair vaginal damage or deformities.

Teresa L.

And of course this isn't a

And of course this isn't a shock to them yet they make it out ot be some huge dramatic event when this was likely edited out last year when they were making preparations for her surgery.

This is what I strongly dislike about that show, it's phony and staged. She's a good kid, but she's getting used by too many people.

I'm told STFU more times in a day than most people get told in a lifetime

Agreed.

Hopefully she can get free of them some day.

Gwen

my own take on this

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I think you’re being a little ungenerous.

Jazz started presenting herself as female in public from the age of four. She started hormone blockers at the age of eleven, and started taking oestrogen just before high school. So that means she didn’t have the misfortune of secondary sex characteristics to be expressed. That means no facial hair, no prominent brow ridges, no masculine voice and less muscular definition. With the oestrogen, she gets natural boobs, softer skin, wider hips and female hair patterns without any additional intervention.

Of course, as a genetic male, the hormones (lack of-slash-addition of) gave her a tendency to gain weight, and her constant bullying made her depressed often and ate too much (side benefit, though - bigger boobs). That’s why, at eighteen, her doctor required her to lose 30 pounds before her sex reassignment (excuse me, I mean gender confirmation) surgery. And, yes, she had to get follow-up surgery because of some complications from the first surgery. That’s because her operation is somewhat experimental - they used peritoneum along with skin grafts - peritoneum is the membrane that is the lining of the abdominal cavity. (Someone told me, though, that Jazz said, in an interview, “the good thing though is that it was only cosmetic and external so it wasn’t too dramatic." So I may be wrong.)

Her main advantage over those of us who hormonally and/or surgically transitioned at an adult age is that she was already transitioning from Age 4 (in effect, she was doing the equivalent of what I used to know as RLT) when she was four, started blockers before becoming a teenager (so she headed off any male secondary sex characteristics) and started female hormones at around thirteen (so she started expressing female secondary sex characteristics at the same time cisgender girls did). So, no, she isn’t intersexed, even though she has a female’s body measurements, natural boobs, natural female voice, natural female facial features, et cetera (although I heard she still had some minor facial surgery, but I could be wrong).

As to her reality show, “I am Jazz,” being staged or contrived, yes, it is, as are all reality shows. But this does not diminish the trials and tribulations she has gone through.

Anyway, this is just my POV. Feel free to disagree. But let’s not argue.

  

Excellent take on the whole

Excellent take on the whole thing, Bobbie.

Kris

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Ungenerous? How so?

In strictly conversational, and unemotional, clinical tones...

I've had the Surgery, and thankfully I am intersex, (XXY, AIS, and who knows what else?) so my testosterone did not work that well in some ways; slim, high voice, but with autoimmune issues common to those Genetics. I've lived this way for 15 years, though didn't have the surgery until 12 years ago. I'm just interested in her case and hope that she is doing well.

I had penile inversion and some skin grafts, though the final surgery for labial lips did not happen because the Doctor was dishonest with me. Long story, enough said. In 2007, some were doing this in two stages. First was the internal part, and a week later was the external, cosmetic part.

I was aware that she was a classic case, was identified early, and got the most forward reaching treatment, so she has progressed very well. She is so fortunate to have had the love and support of her family. Most of us do not.

It's overdramatizing what was

It's overdramatizing what was going on for the sake of the cameras, it was OK for an episode but when it was staged just to show some things that she deals with it stopped being about her life and became about what her mom and the producers thought her life should be presented as.

Yes, she shows a lot of the things she suffers from. However, there is a lot of things that are just total garbage and unbelievably bad that they diminished whatever she is trying to present. She takes her teenage girl drama act over the top when it's clear that it's acting and not genuine reactions. She takes her disappointments over the top instead of showing genuine sadness and disappointment.

I don't blame her for the acting, I blame her mother and the producers. Her mother controls her life, like other reality show teens her mother dictates everything and the poor girl is caught in the wake. She's "normal" but hasn't been normal since she was four. Her ABC interview is likely the only time we saw the real Jazz, her whole act on the show is simply that- an act. It has been all about moving her forward as a personality and not about showcasing her life as a transgender teen.

I'm told STFU more times in a day than most people get told in a lifetime

Robbed of her dignity

I'm all for Jazz. The show is so cheap and flashy, worse than a $2 whore, that it seems to rob her of her dignity. I hope she can get shed of them eventually.

OTOH, all the medical stuff is not cheap, so they do what they do to get the funds to do it.