Accidental Editing

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Four or five of us have editing priveleges for comments. Usually this is used to prevent comments from destroying the look of the site by editing any bad HTML. If you think about it, you will realize that we have to have this capability. Usually, we leave a note when we edit something like this: [Redacted bad HTML - Editor]

When someone is half awake, as Piper was last night, it is possible to hit the edit button instead of the reply button and then hit the save without realizing that one is not on the screen one thought one was on.

This was entirely unintentional. Nothing was changed in anyone's comment, just a reply was added in the wrong place.

Apologies to Renee, this was entirely unintentional. Piper is either asleep right now or on the way to the clinic to visit the friend she has been taking care of for more than a year and who she is preparing to say good bye to. Long story. Please forgive her.

Hugs,
Erin

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I kind of thought so...

I figured it was accidentally done by one of those with modding privileges... I only JUUUST got on and saw it and was about to respond with my thoughts when this went up ^^

And I can completely understand how it happened, and do hope Renae can forgive Piper.

As a hacker myself, I know it'd be extremely implausible for someone WITHOUT privileges to edit a comment on this site. Possible. Probably. But far too much work just to prove a point.

Hugs all 'round,

Abi.

Abigail Drew.

Editing by someone without privileges

erin's picture

Thanks. That would require a major hack of the site -- or a hack of the person whose stuff was being edited's account which might not actually involve the site at all. Either way, it would probably leave traces, as did this simple accidental edit.

It amazes me that almost everyone that commented assumed that this was malicious. Guess no one trusts anyone. It makes me sad.

Hugs,
Erin

= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.

Yeah, number one rule of hacking...

Which works both for and against any would-be hackers: EVERYTHING leaves a trace. EVERYTHING. You can mask it as much as you like, and, potentially, make it next to impossible to track you down, at least, enough so that unless you piss off the Pentagon no one's likely to expend the effort... BUT! The trace is always there.

As for assumed malice... especially on this site... I agree, it's really a sad sad thing :/ Even though I'm a hobby hacker, I'm a grey hat. I only mess with stuff after it enters my possession... Legally, I'm still in the wrong, but I would never actually maliciously harm another person's property. That stuff just ain't right.

Well... I also have a habit of ahem, opening up locked OS's while I'm using "protected" computers. I lock em back up when I'm done ;)

It's really truly sad that anyone, least of all the majority, of the people on this site would immediately assume malice rather than error. This site has the friendliest community of any site I've ever frequented, and that's not just because of the policy.

Abigail Drew.

There's a difference

erin's picture

Hacking and cracking are commonly equated in the media but they aren't the same thing. Hackers are really the ultimate computer experts and they do a lot of good things for the sheer joy of doing them. Oh, and some of them like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs get rich doing them. Steve and Bill were a long way from their hacker roots by the time they made it big, tho.

Anyway, a cracker is someone who cracks secure systems for fun and maybe for profit. Even crackers are not always evil and are often just exploring and finding out what they can do. They may even send reports to people who should be responsible for security but may have left too easily exploitable holes.

The malicious hackers and crackers give everyone a bad name, as if anyone who knew how a bank worked was automatically assumed to be a bank robber.

Irresponsible hackers can cause problems without being malicious, some of the early viruses were written in fits of joy-hacking, just to see if it could be done.

Don't mistake the modern script-kiddy for a genuine hacker; hackers know what they are doing, script-kiddies simply have a set of tools they can use to cause mischief with. Juvenile self-gratification is often the motivation for the script-kiddy who zombies a public utility computer system to send out inane messages to anyone without a good spam filter.

It's still the wild, wild web out there but the owlhoots are really a minority and the guys in white hats are usually hackers, too.

Hugs,
Erin

= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.

The hacking mindset is also

The hacking mindset is also not limited to computers, but to anything. A "hack" is a clever way around a problem - often done in a way that wouldn't normally be considered.


I'll get a life when it's proven and substantiated to be better than what I'm currently experiencing.

Oh... yeah, I can see how

Oh... yeah, I can see how that happened. I think I put more than a few authors on my ignore list that way. (trying to favorite the story and instead managed to igno them ^^ (I know how to removes ignos ;))

Well shit happens, I guess this might be worth an entry into the FAQ :"Help, someone edited my post!" Or something like that...

*hugs*
Beyogi

embarassing edits

Daniela Wolfe's picture

I myself have made embarrassing edits so I can definitely see how this could happen. Back in my moderator days on a long-defunct forum, I made any number of odd mistakes. Usually sleep deprivation was the culprit but sometimes it was just a matter of me not proof-reading my edits.


Have delightfully devious day,

Accidental Editing

Thanks for explaining, Erin.

    Stanman
May Your Light Forever Shine

I know in my case

Yes, I've almost come to expect hackers, or someone just playing where they shouldn't be. Maybe it's just a problem with computers-we are so worried about being hacked, that we see it even if the problem is something totally different and accidental.

On another note, Piper, I'm praying for strength for you. I know how hard this can be, and it makes me cry, thinking that you have to go through this. I don't know what else to say, exept to give you my love.

Wren

I'm Sorry

Piper's picture

I'm sorry that this happened. Erin is right in that I ACCIDENTALLY hit the "Edit" link instead of the "Reply" link.

Because this site doesn't have a "Reply With Quote" option, what I often (but not always) do is copy the text of the person I'm replying to (not via edit, just copy and paste what shows on the page) and paste it into my reply, then I wrap that in a BlockQuote to differentiate that it's not my text and as a way to say "Hey, I'm replying specifically to this, so that you don't get confused" because sometimes the way drupal does threading/nesting, you can loose the plot when trying to figure out which comment another comment is in reply to especially since the vast majority of the users here prefer New comments go on top of Old (which makes things extra confusing).

So I'm Sorry Rénae, I intended to reply to your comment, not to edit. Please accept my sincerest apologies.


"She was like a butterfly, full of color and vibrancy when she chose to open her wings, yet hardly visible when she closed them."
— Geraldine Brooks