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I've got some ideas for names for the NPO/Corp we've been talking about. Two of them are names I already have domains registered for:
BigLittle.Us
and
StarStuffR.Us
I think either would be appropriate. Do people have preferences? Other suggestions?
Hugs,
Erin
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Names
StarStuff would be a nice tribute to Bob; but outside of that it seems messy + vague.
The sound of Biglittle tickles me somehow---I dunno why---and it is easy to remember.
(Though my preferences are usually the kiss of death when it comes to marketing and such.
They could hire me as a consultant on products or movie projects, just doing the opposite of what I pick...)
~hugs, Ronni
What borders on pure insanity?
Canada and Mexico.
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pattern recognition
have you heard of cayce pollard? her (fictional) job was to help with choosing brands, because she was allergic to bad logos etc. that notion, and the idea that jetlag is the result of your soul not travelling fast enough to keep up with you in a plane, are two of the finer riffs in william gibson's pattern recognition, which is easily his best book.
not as think as i smart i am
Big-Little-Star-Stuff...
I like the idea of BigLittle.Us in general, but I like StarStuffR.Us as reference to Bob, I mean StarStuff is even the name of one of his boxen/servers.
So as much as I hate to pass up using the name BigLittle.Us, I would have to vote for StarStuffR.Us because of Bob.
-P
It's always a good idea ...
... for a name to be linked to your organization's mission. Have you gotten as far on the marketing side as coming up with a mission statement? That would help folks choose a name that would resonate with what you're trying to accomplish.
Randalynn
Mission Statement
To promote the literary and personal expression of gender diversity through websites, book publishing and other agreed upon complementary or supporting endeavors.
That's a narrow focus. We could write a wider one.
Hugs,
Erin
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
No, I like it!
The sharper you can focus your mission statement, the more likely you are of achieving its goals. *grin* I'll think on it a while and see if i can't come up with something appropriate.
Randa
Well, In My Opinion
(regardless of it's unimportance), I would prefer StarStuff.Us. I just like the sound of it in my head. I also love the tribute to Bob. BigLittle.Us is also not bad. Whatever ya call it, I'll be there!
Wren
Not sure
BigLittle.Us, I don't see where it's coming from. It has no meaning to me. That may just mean there's something out there which resonates in this group that I don't know about.
StarStuffR.Us, I see the reference to Bob.
I see two ways to look at it. 1) A name which will mean something to the general public, as an assist in presenting to the outer world, or 2) a name that resonates within the community, which has meaning internally. Which face is more important should drive the naming decision.
Yours,
JohnBobMead
Yours,
John Robert Mead
No idea
StarStuff would be a good tribute to Bob. BigLittle says nothing to me. I like the mission statement.
Xaltatun
name
i like starstuffrus.
Both are vaguely problematic
Looking at it from the outside, BigLittle.Us reminds me vaguely of that AR KiddieKamp story-world. No offense to the writers of such, but I don't think that's the overall first impression we want.
StarStuffR.Us, when pronounced "star-stuffer us", sounds a little like proud groupies. Sorry.
Is there any reason we can't pick up and run with Bob's StarDustR.Us idea? There's the precedent of his site theme and its aspect of inclusiveness, plus the pronunciation doesn't mangle to anything worse than "Starduster", which was/is a kind of CB-radio base station antenna, dating back to when about 10% of the US populace picked up 11-meter two-way radios and effectively took control of that band away from the FCC, so there's a hidden implication of empowerance. Perhaps the plural "StarDustrs.Us" if it has to be a new string of characters.
Failing that, I suggest we brainstorm a half-dozen or so additional ideas just to see what else we can come up with, before settling on one.
Still a question and two different things.
If we can get the stardustr.us domain name. But that site is for ... stardustr.us, the fiction site.
In continued talks, Piper and I are beginning to think we need two or three different things. We need a hosting company, we need a publishing company and we need a ... holding company? ... for the continuity and support problems. We could wrap them all under one umbrella but maybe that isn't the best idea.
As for brainstorming... that's why I posted this thread.
Hugs,
Erin
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
One more association...
...for the StarDustR.Us name is Joni Mitchell's song "Woodstock" (covered by CSN&Y):
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/j/joni+mitchell/woodstock_2007538... (the words are all there but not sequenced exactly as on the CSNY track)
...So perhaps the hosting becomes "Stardust-Golden"?
Wow!
I never knew what that third line was. :) How freaken nerdly!
Hugs,
Erin
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
The above is a bit out of
The above is a bit out of order, (if it matters)
We are stardust
Billion year old carbon
We are golden
Caught in the devils bargain
And we've got to get ourselves
Back to the garden
http://www.elyrics.net/read/j/joni-mitchell-lyrics/woodstock...
CSN&Y did it a bit differently, so what version you are most familiar with matters.
We are stardust we are golden
We are caught in the devil's bargain
And we got to get ourselves back to the garden
http://www.kovideo.net/woodstock-lyrics-crosby-still-nash-an...
I know I was confused, that's why I looked it up. I think I may have heard the original by Joni Mitchell a few times, but I've heard CSNY's version hundreds, if not thousands of times.
* * *
"Girls are like pianos, when they're not upright they're grand!" Benny Hill
Karen J.
“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn’t become a king. The palace becomes a circus.” - Turkish Proverb
I admit to quibbling here...
...but I played the CSNY track mp3 through a few times while composing my first quoting post and looking for online lyrics I could point to. As CSNY does it, focusing on what Stills sings as lead, the "carbon" line is the third in the chorus all the way through, except for the chorus after the last verse where the "bargain" line substitutes.
And, yeah... Here on the East Coast, I've heard the Joni version on WBCN, back when it was a real underground-FM station and not a CBS outlet, but I've heard the CSNY version everywhere including top-40, on both coasts.
I wonder if Bob went to Woodstock. He was about 4-1/2 yrs younger'n me, so he would have been mid-teens then. Certainly the Aquarian influence is there in what he created.
[edit: fix times]
Matthews Southern Comfort
version of Woodstock reached no. 1 over here...
I don't just look it, I'm totally ancient
Starstuff
I like Starstuffr.us Bob would have liked that
Love,
Paula
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
The Coda
Chapterhouse: Dune
Paula
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
The Coda
Chapterhouse: Dune
I Have A Question Erin
This is about the name of the corporation
Which would need its own website but would not effect the names of already existent websites.
Hugs,
Erin
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
I have another suggestion
Lady Gaga put it best...
BornThisWayR.US
Otherwise either of yours would be good
I don't just look it, I'm totally gorgeous
I like that domain name,
I like that domain name, Nick!
Even if it doesn't get used as the corporate name, it would be a good one for Erin or somebody to register just so we would have it for future use. It has possibilities.
Kris
Kris
{I leave a trail of Kudos as I browse the site. Be careful where you step!}
Maybe...
...a good name for the publishing wing?
Born This Way Press
(Which also hides the phrase "This way press", a poetic, if somewhat obscure, invitation to "come this way" or "come along with us".)
-Liz
Successor to the LToC
-Liz
Successor to the LToC
Formerly known as "momonoimoto"
Perhaps give it more thought.
They, whoever they are who do such things as saying, say that if I have no alternative suggestion, I should not speak, however...
I feel that neither suggested name presented, inspires nor affirms, two actions that I would think would be important to potential clients in the targeted "demographic".
Yes the names do honor the roots of two web sites, but I feel somewhere there is a better choice still out there.
Probably
That's why I opened this up. But frankly, neither Stardust nor Storysite nor Fictionmania is specific about TG fiction. And there is a reason for that. BigCloset was an inspiration, evocative without being definitive. That's kind of what I'm looking for. Too definitive a name would likely scare off some of the people we want to help. This is a very shy community.
Hugs,
Erin
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
Not the best suggestion but ....
Mnēmosynē’s Progeny
The Muses, nine goddesses, the offspring of Zeus and Mnemosyne
Naming the Corporation
StarStuffR.Us
May Your Light Forever Shine
May Your Light Forever Shine
Just a simple thought...
The Stardust Foundation
Hehe! ^__^
Forward the Foundation
I couldn't resist. ^^;
-Liz
Successor to the LToC
-Liz
Successor to the LToC
Formerly known as "momonoimoto"
My two cents
The URL for the parent organization is not particularly relevant. It would only be used for concerns involving the NPO. All of the sites under the umbrella would have their own URLs.
The top level domain name for non-profits is usually org. My personal choice for a name is diversestories.org. It also has the advantage that the .com and other TLDs are cheaply available for this and could be cross linked to the main site.
The name of the foundation could be independently chosen from the URL.
DJ
BigLittle.Us makes me think
BigLittle.Us makes me think of LGs (adult little girls) and ABs (adult babies) more than what I think of when I think of here. There is at least one AB story that used Big Little Kid to describe the protagonist.
StarStuffR.Us seems more appropriate.
BigLittle.Us
BigLittleUs is a reference to the Big Little books of forty to seventy years ago. I had the domain before I ever heard of LG or AB communities.
Hugs,
Erin
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
BigLittle...
If that title option made Valentine think of the LG & AB communities, just maybe it might also make 'others' think of it as well?
Whatever the chosen name, you should ensure the implied meaning is the meaning you want to convey.
PB
If I were to choose between the two
... and there are no other choices it would be StarStuffR.us. But I would like to humbly suggest maybe OpenCloset2.us or OpenClosetR.us or even OpenCloset4.us. Oh, and maybe OpenTalesR.us or MetaTalesR.us
Not exactly original suggestions but *shrug*. Franky I think BornThisWayR.us as previously suggested is awesome.
Kim
Born this way!
I must say I like Nick's suggestion too! If not that, StarStuffR.US would be my second choice.
Hugs
Grover
More suggestions
A New Genre (since genre and gender are essentially the same word, etymologically; they both mean kind).
Another Genre
BiggerCloset (no one complains about having a bigger closet)
Random Axes (Bob's geek column was Random Access)
DustBunnies (what do you find in a big closet)
TheHatbox
AlephTwo (I already own this one, it's the third order of infinity, a number so large it may be bigger than the number of particles in all possible universes)
Hugs,
Erin
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
To promote the literary and
To promote the literary and personal expression of gender diversity through websites, book publishing and other agreed upon complementary or supporting endeavors.
With that as a mission statement, I think "Another Genre" or "A New Genre" might be the best.
Or maybe
Genre Redefined? *smile*
Randa
How about Transgenre?
How about Transgenre?
I kind of like that but
It's really transgender in French and already in use in several variations on the French internet.
Hugs,
Erin
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
Hmm
Playing on the above mentioned... Genre Undefined. Or refined perhaps. Even run it together..genrefined. Quite like Angs one below, Inklusion, too. Arty and loosely defined. Hey ya pays Ad or marketing mobs big bucks for this stuff. I reckon the people here can do just as well, there's enough looney artistic types anyhow. I sometimes have a ponytail, anyone own a Porsche, some spare ego?
Kris
TranStarGendre
Plays across genre, gender, Stardust, and Trans.
Angela Rasch (Jill M I)
Angela Rasch (Jill M I)
Looney artistic types
Hey! I resemble that remark!
:)
Penny
Perhaps too inclusive
BornThisWayR.Us would fit the whole LGBT/TG spectrum, so perchance it might be too inclusive. It is a rather blatant statement. Just something to think about.
Yours,
JohnBobMead
Yours,
John Robert Mead
Giraffes with lawyers
Could "R Us" in the corporation name annoy the legal department of a certain toy store? Is it worth the risk?
Backwards R
Their trademark has a Backwards R in-order to make it more unique, which in theory would make the forwards R more generic and harder for them to attack?
Plus BigCloset and StarDust already use the R.US algorithm. Until recently I even owned the StoryPortalR.Us domain :)
-P
Their "Backwards" R...
...is a Forwards Cyrillic Ya: Я, so it's not all that "unique." It depends entirely upon how ignorant of other scripts around the world one might be. Anyone with a "Unicode" font installed (which is everyone with an operating system purchased in the last three to five years, unless you have a Mac, in which case it's been there pretty much all along) can handle Cyrillic (Russian and some few other Slavic languages) and many other scripts in common use.
Cheers,
Puddin'
A tender heart is an asset to an editor: it helps us be ruthless in a tactful way.
--- The Chicago Manual of Style
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Cheers,
Puddin'
A tender heart is an asset to an editor: it helps us be ruthless in a tactful way.
--- The Chicago Manual of Style
Lamps R Us
Lamps R Us, a chain of lighting stores, used the forward R and some single stores still do. Toys R Us paid the chain to change their name to Lamps Plus. It should happen to us. :)
There are also Goats R Us, Bricks R Us and even Roadkill R Us. :)
Hugs,
Erin
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
Many foundations
that I'm familiar with are often named as memorials to those who have been lost, or need to be remembered.
The Bob Arnold Memorial Foundation is rather obvious, but perhaps we could find a way to pay tribute or remember those we have lost?
Janice
How about
something like:
Natural A-gender or Inklusion
Angharad
Angharad
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