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If you have been on this site for any length of time, then chances are good you have read a few stories with the following scene - a man is made over into a woman, and when he first catches site of his new appearance, he is amazed, (and usualy aroused) by how beautiful, how sexy, how feminine he looks. Well, I dont live in one of those stories. Getting ready for the consilors reminded me just how difficult the road ahead is going to be for me, simply because I dont pass as female. I guess I am stuck, at least for now.

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Perhaps an experience I had

Perhaps an experience I had a few years ago will give you a little different perspective. I had not started hormones, and had only had a single session of electrolysis at the time. I was wearing normal male clothes and had done nothing to change my voice (Which was fairly deep). Basically, I hadn't even really started transitioning yet. Anyway, I was in line at the post office and the man behind me in line asked me how tall I was. I told him 5'11" and he said something to the effect of, "Wow, and you're not even wearing heals!" (Actually, I think that's pretty much a direct quote). I was confused at the time, but afterwards I realized that he thought I was female, despite all the evidence to the contrary!

Experiences like that became more and more common over time, especially after I started hormones, of course. I can only deduce that it was my natural femininity that was showing through once I stopped trying so hard to conceal it that made the difference. Even now I notice the difference between how people react to me when I'm tense and when I'm relaxed and confident (The last not an overly common thing, I admit). So I think attitude has more to do with passing than people often think.

And I don't live in one of those stories, either. Even when I started living as a woman full time I didn't see myself as beautiful, sexy, and feminine. It always surprised me that nobody ever seemed to see through me. Still does, sometimes. (And guys being attracted to me is just weird, though kind of nice!)

Saless 


Kittyhawk"But it is also tradition that times *must* and always do change, my friend." - Eddie Murphy, Coming To America


"But it is also tradition that times *must* and always do change, my friend." - Eddie Murphy, Coming To America

Passing

Smile
Along the way I have learned some things that could help many of us. Most women will respond positively to a smile, so smile and do it all the time, no really! In the US society there is a thing called "The Good Girl Syndrome". I meet mostly women in my work and any I have talked to on the subject all agree that there is a set of expectations that every woman must meet.
SMILE
Never ever spit, never pick your nose; nope no mining. Never scratch your um yes down there!
SMILE
A key one, good for thousands of dollars in surgery; never furrow your brow. Keep your eyes open, never squint.
sMiLe

Where I work, I see lots of T folk and in my opinion, your brave face is a brilliant smile, no matter how you feel. If you SmIlE, and act like you own the world, maybe it will matter less is you look like a runway model.

Gwen

depends on the age

When I was young, as a teenager, I could pass, very easily. I was thin (called broom or beanpole), short for a boy, and had long hair for a boy...but it was the 70's so wasn't unusual for a boy. Because of a medical condition and an accident as a teenager, I had very light hair growth, and a girlish figure. (those that are reading 'becoming monica' - that was a spoiler).

But as I got older, and 'bigger' the ability to pass, passed.

A few tips on passing

First, when passing you are playing tricks with peoples' minds. We decide male and female based on cues we have learned. You look at me and see broad shoulders, short hair, my face shape and your mind says 'male'. The trick is to provide more cues toward female and to cover up some of the male cues. You don't have to (and probably can't) cover all of the male cues, just shift the balance. For me, the right shape of pants or an A-line skirt creates an illusion of a shape that isn't really there. The right wig, dangly earrings, painted toenails, a cute purse - all are cues. It is the sum of those cues that cause people to say 'female' and look past the remaining male cues. And make sure that your attire and makeup is appropriate for where you are going and who you are. For me and the places I go as Alison, glam and eye liner is almost never appropriate.

The second point you may have heard before. I was hugely concerned with passing until I figured out that it doesn't matter to most people. Once I figured out that most people would accept me even after I was read, I stopped being so nervous and now am rarely read by people passing by. I am often read by people I interact with, but I am now comfortable as Alison. People can tell that Alison is the real me and I'm not afraid that they have figured me out. So, Dorothy, as hard as it is to overcome the fear (I know how hard it is - I was told this years ago), the more nervous you are the harder it is to pass. On one of my first ventures out a nice woman stopped me and gave me some clothing advice. I asked how she figured me out and she said it wasn't the clothes or makeup. I looked terrified. So search deep and find that confidence. It sounds like you have a wealth of it inside given your courage to venture out to the counselor en femme. Hopefully someday soon you'll see the irony that once you don't care as much about passing you'll begin to pass better.

Don't get down on yourself.

I don't feel I pass very well at all, yet wherever I go, people relate to me as a female.

I think the feeling you have about not passing well is due to a thing I'v noticed in myself. I saw the same face in the mirror every day. When I began my RLT, I still saw the same face... just with makeup on it and long hair on top of it... but to others, the makeup, the long hair, the semblance of a figure, and feminine clothing, ( even just ladies jeans and a colorful top) all seem to tell them..."woman," and that's how they relate to me. I think people see what they expect to see until and unless they are given a reason to question what they see.

I really think it's all in the attitude, as long as you aren't sporting a 5 o'clock shadow at noon... and walking like a gorilla. In my mind, I m a woman, and I present myself that way. I smile, I interact with people... as a woman would. My voice is not good, my shape is... well... round IS a shape you know. (LOL) My wigs are cheap and my makeup skills are rudimentary at best, but, as I said earlier, people just seem to assume I'm a woman.

Attitude, honey. I go out there like I own the world... AS a woman... and to HELL with what anyone else thinks about it! You're a woman. Be careful, but be proud, and show your pride. BE the woman you are. Don't be arrogant, be confident. You can do it.

hugs and all my love,
Catherine Linda MIchel

As a T-woman, I do have a Y chromosome... it's just in cursive, pink script. Y_0.jpg

Confidence My Dear

Dorothy,

I would like to put in my 2 cents with what Allison and Catherine have said. I am now in transition, losing weight before hormones, I'm now kind of half and half. My therapist has already assure me I will have no problem when I finally live full time. But it hasn't always been so easy. I was 415 pounds, 6'1." Even at that size I never was read. The trick? Be yourself, and be confident. If the visual clues are even close to being on the female side of the road people will give you the benefit of the doubt, and believe who you present yourself to be. That's were the confidence comes in. You have to have the attitude of "never let them see you sweat" If you are comfortable then people around you will be comfortable. If you are nervous people will pick that up and wonder what is wrong.

I hope that has helped. Calm your nerves. As long as you are among a group of people nothing is likely to happen worse than a little embarassment. Relax be you, and people will believe you.

Beth

err.. I hope it goes without saying that you have to do your part too: with shaving, appropriate hair, correct foundations, appropriate clothing, and makeup.

passing

In 2005, in November, I had my first session at E-3000 consisting of two days of lidocaine injections and electrolysis, 8 hour days. I was returning to central Oklahoma, but stopped in the small town of Marietta for food. Understand, my face was swollen from the shots and the first rounds of electrolosis, my longer hair pulled back in a pony tail and covered by a cap that was not at all femme, and in a sweatshirt and jeans (girl jeans but not obviously so). The waitress asked me "how many to eat ma'am"!!!. I ate lightly, went to pay out, and she came up to cash me out, and said come back soon ma'am!!

To my mind I didn't look nor was I trying to look female. As I said, I thought I looked horrible with my swollen face and some small scabs and bruises from the injections, and tired from lack of sleep the previous night, but she gendered me female. That event was after only two months of therapy, and I knew that I had dropped most of my facade, but just didn't realize until then how much being myself let the real me through.

I was sirred a few times early on, but especially on the phone (bad phone voice even now), but not in person for at least three years. I never thought I would pass well enough to be accepted, and thought only that I was getting the physical correction for myself and to heck with what anyone else thought. If I can pass or at least be accepted, so can you. Be confident in who you are, satisfied with being the real you, and smile! not with just your lips but with your eyes as well. Learn the degrees of smile, the slightly smile of acknowledgement between one woman and another, the remote smile when a guy is looking at you, and the genuine smile when you are engaged in a face to face interaction. Anxiety can get you "read" faster than anything when you're just starting out, but a relaxed smile can take care of that. Practice that as much as your makeup, and it will work for you.

CaroL

CaroL