How can anyone eat dormice?!

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On my quick morning news stroll before starting work, I came across this aweful and also good piece of news:

https://inews.co.uk/news/police-find-hundreds-frozen-edible-...

But how can anyone eat dormice? How is it even possible to debone them? It's really a good thing, that such aweful and blatant cases of crime against nature are still being worked on, it restores my faith in humanity somewhat.

Also a huge thank you to our resident dormouse expert for so many thousand of fun episodes about dormice, hedges and inconvenient landings in the same.

Saphira

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Not on my Plate

BarbieLee's picture

Remember a nature film where the guy was way up north on the frozen tundra filming nature. The mice started getting into his food supplies. He began eating the mice and claimed the bones were nice and crunchy. People eat bird bones, chicken bones, fish heads, etc.
Personally, I'll pass. I haven't got that hungry yet to give any of it a try.
Hugs Saphira
Barb
Life is a gift, don't waste it.

Oklahoma born and raised cowgirl

I understand

Maddy Bell's picture

that Dormice are best served deep fried in a light batter, the meat pretty much falls off the bone. The Edible Dormouse (as opposed to Angharad's tiny little woodland examples) are quite nutritious, the Romans considered them quite a delicacy.

And I don't eat hedgehogs either.


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Madeline Anafrid Bell

For your health and welfare - get off of flesh, dairy, eggs

In my 13+ years as a vegan (no flesh, no cow-squeeze, no bird droppings), I've seen countless research reports of the horrible to fatal damage that eating animals does to our bodies:

Acne; Alzheimer's and likely other dementias; arteries - clogged; blood pressure - high; cancers of the breast, colon, prostate; constipation; diabetes-II;

early death - by an average of seven years; half of all Americans will die from eating animals;

erectile dysfunction; gout; kidney damage; liver problems; heart disease (and no, open-heart surgery >does not< feel good); influenza comes from birds; obesity; osteoporosis; pneumonia - increased risk; stroke; world hunger and starvation, zoonotic (from animals) diseases: COVID-19, Ebola, swine flu, SARS, MERS, bird flu, and “mad cow” disease – have originated in animals.
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It is way past time to stop eating animal stuff: Here is one great (and >free<) way to start: https://kickstart.pcrm.org/en
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https://mercyforanimals.org/blog/here-are-the-top-10-health-...

https://www.peta.org.uk/issues/animals-not-eat/meat-health/

https://www.theguardian.com/food/2021/mar/02/eating-meat-rai...
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I haven't even touched on the massive harms to animals, and the massive and irreversible harms to the World Climate...

Vegan….

0.25tspgirl's picture

Cattle,sheep, goats, pigs, chickens would all be extinct except we domesticated them for food. Dogs and cats are also dependent upon us for survival and they are carnivores. Yes Alan, the world would be very different if we became vegan. In fact anthropologists believe meat eating is causal to our brain size development and the rise of Homo which ever species from north Western Africa. The health problems are a trade off for landing on the moon. The planetary and climate problems are signs of human over population. Soon enough a global catastrophe will be followed by a massive population crash. If our species survives we’ll be in small scattered bands with out technology like BCTS to share our thoughts through. And no, vegan survival in that scenario is improbable (cress, frog legs, snails, grubs are foods discovered by starvation IMHO).

BAK 0.25tspgirl

can't help

Maddy Bell's picture

first world idiots!

To paraphrase a 70's UK sitcom

"he's a vegan."
"so?"
"I bet you don't even know what a vegan is."
"of course I do, i've seen every episode of Star Trek!"

Vegans can only exist in a world that relys on petro carbons and high technology, without them they would be unable to clothe or feed themselves, keep warm or survive disease. Like most humans, I have a mixed diet, sometimes it includes meat, sometimes it includes animal products, sometimes its all plant based - its called a balanced diet!


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Madeline Anafrid Bell

I'm not being drawn into this argument

Angharad's picture

except to say, edible dormice Glis glis are an alien species in the UK and are spreading at 5km per year. In other parts of Europe they are adversely affecting Hazel Dormice Muscardinus avellanarius and the garden dormouse Eliomys quercinus because they outcompete them due to size as they all eat similar food and nest in similar places, it's known as interspecific competition. It's become worse as habitats and natural food sources disappear due to human activity eg intensive agriculture, pollution and climate change. Effectively, we're destroying our own planet and it's only a matter of time before we destroy ourselves, either by greed or aggression, which is intraspecific competition. You could say we've shat in our own nests.

Angharad

Alien dormice

I read a while back that glis glis has been causing problems in the Home Counties.

They like to get into attic spaces and chew the electrics.

Like most non-native species they are better off in their original locations, much like the grey tree-rats that keep digging up my lawns!

B movie

Rose's picture

Alien dormice sounds like the title of a strange book or a B movie.

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Hugs!
Rosemary

It's autumn

This time of year, they are busy burying the things there... together with acorns, seeds, bulbs they have dug up in someone else's garden and anything else they think might be tasty later on.

Alternatively, they are digging up whatever the last squirrel just buried there!

One great American import we really didn't want - along with signal crayfish.

Penny

Angharad, thanks for your clarification

I believe I have only seen an "edible dormouse" once, in a barn in Austria. It looks rather different from our English "hazel dormouse".
Before that, when I first heard about them, I was informed that their centre in England was Tring, where their origin was from feral escapes from Walter Rothschild's live collection (now long closed down) in his then residence of Tring House. The Rothschild house and its museum collection of preserved and displayed animals then became an out-station of London's Natural History Museum.
I suggest that interested readers might look up Glis glis in Wikipedia for a fuller account of them in the UK, which includes a distribution map.