A Good Question

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On Thursday I was sitting with my friend Anne in a pub drinking a milky coffee, Anyway, after we had managed to catch up on what we had being doing over the past two weeks since we last met, the subject changed to what we were reading at the moment. I mentioned that I was just finishing off 'The Lost Continent' by Bill Bryson and was just going to start 'Labyrinth' by Kate Mosse. I admitted that I was sidetracked as usual by reading some stories from this site, when she asked me a good question.
"Why do you read TG fiction?"

Before I continue I should explain that I started living full time in 1993 and had my 'op' a few years later.

Anyway, back to the question. Now, I am not the most articulate person at the best of times and began with the usual ums and errs. Whilst I was struggling to formulate an answer, I first of all threw in the comment that it was perhaps, the same reason other women read Mills & Boon, or other romance novels of that type. She replied by saying that was just 'wish fulfilment' reading and that there must be another reason.

Finally I said that I had grown up with the need to find out why I felt so wrong in myself. I had scoured the libraries as a youngster when, alas, there was little or nothing on the subject. In later years I found plenty of factual information, real life stories and some fiction. The 'need' to know more about the subject continued. I added that whilst I was now aware of the known reasons why, plus the current speculations as to how, I was transsexual, the 'need' to know more will continue with me always.
Through reading this genre of fiction, I find aspects in myself, that others have realised and managed to explain through their stories. Not always of course, sometime I just learn more about how much the writers disclose about their selves through their writing.

This seemed to answer Anne's question, and we finished our drink and went in her car to pick up Mark our other pub quiz member. On the way, we talked around the subject and once again she asked me another question that made me think "What type of woman would you be if you were born female?" now that answer I will have to leave for another time.
Sometimes, I wonder if I should have friends who are trained counsellors, but no, after all these years, I enjoy the unusual questions she asks, even if we both know I will struggle to answer them.

So, for those of you I haven’t bored with my silly story, what would your answer have been?
Love
Anne

Comments

Personal Enjoyment?

Why do any of us read what we do? Some people love whodunnits, some go for the scary/horror, some prefer science fiction or fantasy. Some will also refuse to read certain types/styles. It's all a matter of what you enjoy.

I know there are some who look for the so-called "one-handed" fiction, and that may be something out of our genre or something like "The Flashman" series, or maybe Penthouse, etc. Even there they are getting some (excuse me for saying this) personal satisfaction.

It's the same thing regarding music. Why do I love Fleetwood Mac and the Doors, The Carpenters and Bonnie Rait? I don't try to analyze it, as that would take some of the fun out of it for me. I hear a song and I like it, love it, or maybe even hate it. The same with stories I read.

Karen J.

"Being a girl is wonderful and to torture someone into that would be like the exact opposite of what it's like. I don’t know how anyone could act that way." College Girl - poetheather


"Life is not measured by the breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.”
George Carlin

to be free

I think there might be as many reasons for reading these stories as there are readers. There might be as many reasons as there are hits.

I think one thing that is often over looked though is the allegory these stories provide for other kinds of freedom. Not everyone who comes here actually has had to deal with confining gender or sexual roles, at least not in the broadest since that our protagonist face (maybe everyone deals with those restraints to a lesser degree.).

But there are a lot of other restraints to be dealt with too. When the heroines (or heroes) are able to pass, to overcome, and to show what they really are successfully, that is equal to the escape from other restraints (social, economic, physical, whatever). At the same time, when the protagonists are forced or tricked into being feminine and aren't, that is also the way some feel about there on lives (but in other ways).

That is not the only, or main, reason I read these stories. For me it is a bit more direct and concrete, but I think it might be the main reason for many.

Seek Joy,
Jan

As dreams end, so does life.

People can lead many lives. Each microcosm of their hopes, their dreams, and their plans, are all too often subverted in realities that all can see, but I think that the human mind is too complex to be limited to what we merely see. We use dreams and daydreams to fill all the little corners of unused space, and to create a refuge where we keep a few important parts of ourselves.

Often it’s cathartic. The stories where we are suddenly as pretty as we’ve always wanted to be, or where we reorder the scope of lives to resolve the problems of guilt, lack of promise, and entitlement, to change those things that we see as the barriers between our real lives, and the greener places in these little corners that buoy us up.

They are ubiquitous. People use them for everything from escapism, to a way to plan complex tasks by envisioning them more fully before taking action. Some don’t believe it, because their own little corners are closer to the every day life, like sports, or cars, or money. However, although it is manifestly not a phenomenon to be claimed by any one group, being an offshoot of logical thought and problem solving, there are still those who need it more than others it seems.

Like me.

I have ridden in the moonlight on a dragon’s wings, and stood shoulder to shoulder with earthly kings. I’ve built clever devices, some real and others less so, all while driving starships beyond the limits of wonder. As for warm tropical beaches, and the hours spent in expressing love to one another, I know every grain of sand. When there is no good book in easy reach, or a well written newspaper on a convenient stand; my imagination is always ready to fill those times – starting always in those little corner places that I keep readily at hand.

I only wish I could share all places I’ve been., but then again the stories in themselves are less important. All satisfy the needs that drive us. The actual destinations are testaments to diversity, just as the journey’s a monument to humanity. I continue to read these stories because every new situation is a destination where I sojourn, and every new path a revelation of a new way by which I can appreciate the needs and the wishes in me. The desire to do so my wax and wane, but it is always there, amid all the cares, these other lives that speak to me.

I’d have told her it’s because I have an all too human heart, and because I can dare to dream.

Sarah Lynn Morgan.

I don't know why we visit these sites

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I'd had surgery before you went full time Anne, so have spent over twenty years as I am. So why do I need to visit these sites, read and enjoy some stories and not like others? I don't know, but it obviously fulfils a need of some sort. In the same way writing them does, but apart from a creative outlet, I don't know what.

So my answer would be, it fills a need that isn't otherwise available.

It might also be the comfort element, no need to disguise anything which we often have to do with the general public. So you can relax and chill out.

Angharad

Angharad

Narrative transport

Coincidentally, just a couple of days ago I read this:

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=the-secrets-of-storytelling

In particular, I think this passage applies:

But the best stories—those retold through generations and translated into other languages—do more than simply present a believable picture. These tales captivate their audience, whose emotions can be inextricably tied to those of the story’s characters. Such immersion is a state psychologists call “narrative transport.”

Researchers have only begun teasing out the relations among the variables that can initiate narrative transport. A 2004 study by psychologist Melanie C. Green, now at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, showed that prior knowledge and life experience affected the immersive experience. Volunteers read a short story about a gay man attending his college fraternity’s reunion. Those who had friends or family members who were homosexual reported higher transportation, and they also perceived the story events, settings and characters to be more realistic. Transportation was also deeper for participants with past experiences in fraternities or sororities. “Familiarity helps, and a character to identify with helps,” Green explains.

Also this:

“If you’re training to be a pilot, you spend time in a flight simulator,” says Keith Oatley, a professor of applied cognitive psychology at the University of Toronto. Preliminary research by Oatley and Mar suggests that stories may act as “flight simulators” for social life. A 2006 study hinted at a connection between the enjoyment of stories and better social abilities. The researchers used both self-report and assessment tests to determine social ability and empathy among 94 students, whom they also surveyed for name recognition of authors who wrote narrative fiction and nonnarrative nonfiction. They found that students who had had more exposure to fiction tended to perform better on social ability and empathy tests. Although the results are provocative, the authors caution that the study did not probe cause and effect—exposure to stories may hone social skills as the researchers suspect, but perhaps socially inclined individuals simply seek out more narrative fiction.

All in all, I think you intuitively grasped and explained what these researchers have spent their careers figuring out.

You're lucky to have such a friend.

It's not everyone that accepts literature in this genre... Take one look at the number of attacks Erin's had trying to keep the site up and running...

That said, Seems like every decade, more and more information is availalbe to those needing to find it. I hope that kids today are able to find info quickly enough so they don't end up thinking they're crazy...

But as to why read things here? That's easy (for me), there is some really good fiction to be found here. :-) (Good as in fun to read with stories to tell, interesting characters, etc.)

Best wishes,
Annette

If you have a TG child

If you have a TG child, like we do, it is extremely difficult to find any books that have any relevance to them. In children's literature boys are boys and girls are girls. One occasionally comes across a spot of cross-dressing as, for example, in Enid Blyton's Circus of Adventure, (published in the fifties) Anne Fine's Bill's New Frock (published in the nineties) and the more recently published Boy 2 Girl by Terence Blacker. But apart from those, and Twice Upon A Time, (mentioned by Angharad in Totally Insane) I've never come across any others that have much relevance to my daughter.

So that is why I started looking for suitable stories for her on the Internet, and here I have found stories that are suitable for her written by Kaleigh Way, Angharad, Gabi and some others. I download them and print them out so that we can read them together at bedtime n our special read and cuddle time. Even though she is 13, she still loves to be read to, and so do I so we take it in turns.

We both say "Thank Goodness for Top Shelf." It has saved our bacon.

Hugs,
Hilary

Good question, one I've asked myself, too.

I'm not really sure why I am so attracted to these stories, other than I know I've been fascinated with the concept of transformation (internal, external, mental and physical), ever since I was a young child, perhaps 6 or 7 years old. I know this growing interest happened to develop at almost the same time as my dawning awareness of the differences between boys and girls, and also my knowledge that I somehow wasn't like the boys around me. I know I don't fit into any easily defined group, and I believe that I find, or feel, some kind of camaraderie by knowing that there are others out there who are not so easily categorized. It fills a basic need that I am not really able to further clarify; I'm just glad you're all out there, even if I don't see your faces, I feel your hearts.

He conquers who endures. ~ Persius