Trump has won, it's a dark day for minorities everywhere. I can't help but feel that anyone who refused to vote or did a protest vote helped put him there.
Tragic.
Trump won
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I was disappointed from the get go.
I did not vote for Trump, i sadly voted for Hillary.
This is proof of how the 2 party system does not work. The 2 most despised candidates won. I voted for Bernie in the Primary.
I am very worried about either the economy collapsing or ending up in WW3. He scared me with how he talked about using nukes.
"Cortana is watching you!"
"... the 2 party system does not work?"
I believe, instead, that it is the party's primary election rules that are not working. How else would such faulty people be selected? One party gives bonuses (super delegates) to party big-wigs, and the other favors the unique outlier.by splitting the vote among groups of people who have similar positions. (Game theory has solutions, but none have been implemented.)
Further, even holding the majority of both houses of the legislature, the executive does not have authority to implement programs unless both houses are for them, including the Senate 60% to pass rule, unless the executive overreaches his authority or his supporters in the legislature pull off subterfuge.
Whether Trump will be able to delegate wisely and effectively, as was required in his prior profession, is to be seen. I won't bet against it!
I sincerely hope that he does not open the "White House Bed and Breakfast" that some prior White House occupants ran. :(
Sara
Between the wrinkles, the orthopedic shoes, and nine decades of gravity, it is really hard to be alluring. My icon, you ask? It is the last picture I allowed to escape the camera ... back before most BC authors were born.
not so at least in the past.
in the past all it took was 51votes to pass a bill. that is why the Vice President's role as leader of the Senate was to be the tie breaker. But the is the rule on Filibusters, that if a bill does not have at least 60 votes it can be blocked as long as those apposed to it can keep talking. So now even if it gets the required votes of 50+1 it still does not pass.
The country was not founded with political parties in mind, heck Our first President George Washington warned about what would happen if political parties were to rise to power. It has come to pass. First the VP went from the runner-up of the Presidential race to a running mate. Second the took it from where Senators were appointed by the State Governors to being elected officials. The Senate was supposed to be a check on the ferver of the house, by looking at long term ramifications of laws, that is why it is the Senate that approves Government appointments and treaties not the house.
"Cortana is watching you!"
Shocked
I don't usually talk about politics especially about a country I am not a citizen of but everyone I know here is shocked. No one expected him to win. We sort thought he was a clown at best. Will we have new world order now as he promised. What does this mean for world peace?
I am worried.
Sydney Moya
What does this mean for world peace?
This means that we all will be dead three days after Trump's swearing in. Nuclear war all around :D
Lol
Give him maybe thirty days,))
Shocked
Did the polls get it wrong because people were ashamed of admitting they support trump because watching from afar the media tended to treat Trump as a joke. The panels usually had one surrogate for him versus four for hrc and they usually sounded like loons. It seemed too biased sometimes and I don't like the guy. Did that put undecided voters off?
Ashamed to admit ...
Yes, I believe that support for Trump was under-reported as respondents preferred not to reveal their choice. This was due to MSM hysteria and bias and character assassination of Trump. And on top of respondent reluctance add the slant built into polling questions.
Pre-election under-reporting of support of parties/candidates not liked by the MSM is a standard occurrence in my country.
Laws on polling affect it as well.
First they can not use Auto dialers all calls must be manually dialed by the poller, Second most people do not answer strange numbers anymore, because they see the number of who is calling. Cell numbers are usually excluded and most people do not use landlines anymore. I do not answer numbers i do not know on my phone anymore because i get to many spam calls, and thanks to cheap VOIP phone services i get a whole lot more calls from scammers and so on. Also the FBI got political in its announcements just days before the election and that might have influenced the race, there is no telling.
The thing is legally Trump can still loose in the official vote, since that is in December and is done by the electoral college, The people chosen by there states do not have any legal binding to vote for Trump. It has happened before. And for the Presidency Votes those are the only votes that count and go on official record.
"Cortana is watching you!"
I have hung up on people doing surveys
Going back to the mid-90's I have up on people doing polls. Before then I used to be eager to answer such calls that was till I received a phone that asked me over and over with a just variation in words how I felt about some service. The poll was so nauseatingly repetitive I hung up and haven't done a poll since.
We have a landline by the way. I also have nomorobo which filters out most people doing polls or making political calls too. Somebody called FL Research called me 6 times in 3 days just before the election but nomorobo intercepted the calls.
I voted for Gary Johnson by the way. When I don't like either party's candidate, I will vote 3rd party. I did so in 2014 when the choice for Florida Governor was either Charlie Crist or Rick Scott.
FBI didn't have anything to do with Hillary's defeat. A commenter at a blog I used to sometimes write at sums things up pretty well- 'the alternative offered to Trump was an old, uninspiring, uncharismatic, unaccomplished, unlikeable exemplar of the status quo who dragged 25 years of baggage and scandal with her.' I don't say Clinton was unaccomplished, but her accomplishments aren't great either.
My politics- I'm a registered Democrat but used to blog at Conservative blogs. Got kicked off one for not towing the Conservative line enough. I been called a moonbat by Michele Malkin, a far right winger by someone at Daily Kos, and middle of the road by Florida blogger State of Sunshine.
Daniel, author of maid, whore, bimbo, and sissy free TG fiction since 2000
What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.- Oscar Levant
not going to happen
"The thing is legally Trump can still loose in the official vote, since that is in December and is done by the electoral college, The people chosen by there states do not have any legal binding to vote for Trump. It has happened before. And for the Presidency Votes those are the only votes that count and go on official record."
they go and vote other than what was promised by the numbers "who" voted and the protests you see now will look like 5 year olds kids birthday party in comparison to the riots that will start ---then the USA will be a laughing stock of BS democracy forever from there.
its a system--it did what it was made to to do--- well all need to look forward now.
Proud member of the Whateley Academy Drow clan/collective
He better get himself indited
He better get himself indited, fortunately with his attitude, that is pretty damn likely, and his successor better not pardon him.
Not the end of the world
So let's just hold it together. Bernie got thrown under the bus, but it all may yet work out. And, Donald is only one man out of several hundred in governance.
So, take a breath, step back and go find a good book. I went out and sat by the river for an hour or so today, and a child, a young woman and an elderly Twoman walked past. I waved and they waved. We'll get through this, inshallah.
Gwen
Rantings of a Libertarian
I can say that I disagree with both parties and did not like either candidate put forth. Republicans take too strong of a stand on some laws they want passed that I feel would take away too much freedom. A prime example of this is the ongoing issue on abortion, republicans want it to be strictly outlawed. Personally I do not believe that anyone has the right to tell someone else what they can or cannot do when it comes to their own person.
Democrats are no better and honestly should change their name the the socialist party as they have gone so far to the extreme left that the party bears no resemblance to "Democracy" any longer. They believe that they should be able to force you to pay for whatever new policy they wish to begin because its for the betterment of the whole. While the ideas they talk about sound great, no one ever tells you how they are going to get the money to pay for these new policies they want to enact. When any of them ever does say anything to this, its always about taxing the rich, something that has been proven NOT TO WORK. Just look at California or Illinois, Both states attempted to raise taxes on businesses and the businesses moved lock stock and barrel to another state. Not only losing the extra tax revenue they expected but losing what the business was paying before the greedy tax increase, leaving the state with LESS tax revenue.
The one thing I will make note about of the general public and how they acted on the news of who won. I'll go back to Obama winning in 2008 and 2012, a democratic win both times. those that voted against Obama moaned a bit about losing, tightened their belts and went on with their lives, Even after Obama showed a blatant disrespect for the Constitution and his own oath of office there was very little to be heard from them.
This time around the republican's won and Hillary supporters are screaming the world is coming to an end, etc.
As I stated I am Libertarian therefore neither Democrat or Republican but If I was part of the democratic party I would feel ashamed of how those people of my party were acting over this loss.
We the willing, led by the unsure. Have been doing so much with so little for so long,
We are now qualified to do anything with nothing.
Socialism
Is it a swear word in America? Rich people make money using public goods but don't want to pay for them or their maintenance unless they can profit from it. I find it odd especially considering that taxes have been higher for most of the last century and the US did okay.
I read somewhere that socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as part of an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
Is there any truth to this?
Yup.
It's basically a dirty word. it has been associated with communism in this country to the point where the words are used interchangeably. Normally, a self avowed socialist would have zero chance in a general election here, but Hilary is hated so much (and had to game the system to get the nomination over a Socialist) that Bernie would have probably have won vs Donald.
I despised Killary so much, I voted for Trump. I think he's a Demagogue, but not nearly as bad as people on the far left want to believe. He's basically the ultimate politician who will say anything to get elected, and since this is his first election ever, people can judge him on his statements, and not deeds as a politician. not a good thing someone is running for the most powerful elected office on the planet.
He will turn out to be a Right of center President, with a muddled domestic policy, and a strong foreign policy. (based on his cabinet picks so far, he at least has a few good picks. General Mattis for Secratary of defense is highly regarded by both parties.)