My wife had this pop up on her Facebook page.
How Should Christians Respond to Target’s Bathroom Policy?
While the lady isn't in favor of Target's policy, she is very reasonable about her feelings on it and speaks with a clear head, leaving out the knee-jerk response that the other vocal Christians scream with.
I encourage you to read this. If all Christians had this attitude then there would be a lot less angst regarding bathroom use.
Comments
Problematic
Part of her thesis is admirable, part despicable.
Her justification for disliking the policy is the same bogus idea that it makes what would be criminal behavior easier to get away with.
As long as she is justifying bigotry with lies, she is bearing false witness and violating the 11th commandment as well. All other Christlike brownie points are put in jeopardy by this.
Hugs,
Erin
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
Thanks Erin
Your response was much nicer than what I had drafted. Bigotry and hate don't fit in my understanding of Christianity. Love, acceptance and appreciation of diversity do fit.
Me Too
Erin - I was about to respond with the same comment when I read yours.
Mixed gender bathrooms have been around for a very long time. Is there any evidence that peeping Toms and pedophiles are using them to take pictures? That is insanity wrapped up in semi-reasoned thinking.
I don't blame her. She probably gets her information from one source -- FOX news. I watch FOX and I also watch MSNBC. It's incredible how different the slant can be. The fault lies in those who make huge money spewing hate. Politicians and yellow journalists are killing transgender by targeting us.
Jill
Angela Rasch (Jill M I)
yes it was a very refreshing article
i did reply to her main article, and to some comments made by others, civilly, at least I think it was civil.
other than her idea of it being a "choice" it was a very well thought out view point, some misconceptions as who knows most about a trans person? another trans person, a cis person generally will NOT get what we feel, even if they are accepting, supporting, because they HONESTLY cant.
Teresa L.
I'm sorry
but since when was Jesus a plumber and what has Christianity got to do with disposing of bodily waste? The whole thing is politically motivated claptrap and the demonization of a minority group by a larger group of bullies I suspect Jesus would be ashamed to be associated with even if he had been a plumber.
Angharad
Bigotry
She's a bigot, trying to appear sweet and innocent. Her links are to hate sites and she perpetuates that hatred. One link purports to show how evil transgenders are peeping toms, yadda, yadda. Well, I suggest she look at good godly priests if she wants to find child molesters.
Her article can be summed up as "Show Christian love to the trans folk, even though they are all child-molesting perverts who will burn forever in the warmth of god's brimstone lake of forgiveness and eternal fire of love"
I agree with Erin
There are lots of Christian Ts and therein lies the discomfort I suspect Patricia is trying to rationalize somehow by even showing such a link, that her fellow Christians are 'not that bad' so it is okay to still profess that faith. My recommendation is to live your creed and don't worry about other Christians. One must be able to stand up to such bigots and no rationalization is possible. If one must denounce fellow Christiasn then so be it. Why is that a problem? You are doing them no favors by not calling them out for their horrible adherence to what their faith should be.
She's struggling with the question
And that's better than the flat out condemnation we see from so
many fundamentalist and evangelical Christians.
At least she accepts the message that we should accept and love those who are different and we don't feel comfortable with.
Gillian Cairns
Wait...
What does going to the bathroom have to do with religion?????
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Another False "Christian"
However "enlightened" this lady proclaims herself to be she is not. If she loves Jesus as she says she does she wouldn't have a problem with a bathroom policy that permits those who identify as female using the one in which they are comfortable. I notice that few seem to raise an objection to a female identifier using a male facility.
In reality nearly everyone, regardless of their gender, uses the loo for the purpose for which it is intended.
If someone commits a felony or makes a nuisance of themselves in a restroom they will still be prosecuted. See the recent post about a Utah father taking his five-year-old daughter into the restroom with him and being harassed.
This whole issue is being pursued by a small group of bigots. Even Donald Trump thinks it's idiocy.
Wrong on Donny
He now (as of a few days ago) says it's up to the States. When pushed regarding his personal opinion, he said he thinks it's up to the states, and he hopes they'll do the right thing, but doesn't say what that might be. Given his fluidity on issues, his opinion could have changed again already, but don't bet on it as it's now an acceptable "Republican politician" opinion.
http://www.vox.com/2016/5/26/11783864/jimmy-kimmel-donald-trump-transgender-bathrooms
You're Right Of Course
Trump says one thing one day and then reverses direction the next.
In reality this is a non-issue being pushed by a lunatic minority, unfortunately pressing buttons amongst those who don't think it through. The correct response is to turn the other cheek....literally.... while you sit there relieving yourself. And don't forget to wipe.
My wife always believed that God was love
and to believe the best in a person, until they showed something different.
I've never liked religion, as it forces onto the believer that "you do it my way or go down the highway". The last time I set foot in a church the preacher had railed on in the sermon about how every other religion, every other denomination of Christianity, other than his church, was the devil's work. This isn't love, this is hatred and bigotry. I reject that version of Christianity.
Simply because it does not allow for the good people of today, who may be gay, or lesbian, bisexual or transgendered. If someone doesn't like that viewpoint, I'll agree to disagree with them and hope it stays peaceful.
If you're uncomfortable with using a bathroom where a TG person may come in, you are always free to use the family bathroom. It seats one, and has a lock on the door.
The article is gone now...
But for me to put my 2¢ in about bathroom policies in general, here goes.
The way I see it we all ready have a policy that deals with this issue. It's the Sexual Predator Laws. If a Transgender uses the bathroom of their Gender Identity, they want the same privacy and safety as anyone else. If the individual who claims to be Transgender and transgresses it is right to charge them under the current law. But if they mind their own business and leave they shouldn't be hassled.
Just my thoughts on the matter.
Wil
Aine