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I've decided, at last, what story I'm going to write. As with most of the ideas I decide to turn into stories, however, the more I think about it the more complex it's turning out to be.

The one way around that feeling of being overwhelmed would be to outline. That's a word, however, I've come to dread.

It's one of those things I loathed doing in school, because I never felt as though I were doing it correctly. Though I've never done it up to now, I imagine outlining for fiction would be vastly different anyway, and books on the subject have proved to be as clear as mud.

So I'm appealing to those of you who outline. Exactly how do you do it? Bulleted lists of headings, subheadings, and sub-sub-headings in alphabetical/numerical order, roughly sketched out paragraphs, character notes, or some combination of all three? Is there a place I can go online to actually see what an outline for a fiction story looks like?

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When I outline...

erin's picture

I don't always outline because often, that kills the story for me BUT

When I do outline I use what I call a narrative. That is I write paragraphs describing what I see as the action line, the plot, of the story. Even if I intend to tell the story out of order, I write this in chronological order. I break up the action paragraphs with occasional character sketches or scene sketches, usually those are just paragraphs, too.

When I've done this, I work on expanding it bit by bit until I feel I have my hook to start writing. I may write a detailed ending before I write the beginning and I may never use lots of the stuff I have written.

I don't use bullet headings or things like that but some people find those useful. Sometimes I include artwork in the file holding my outline, either pictures I have found online or things I have drawn myself.

Sometimes the outline exists only in my head. Long drives are good for this. Many times I start an outline and put it away for a long stretch before getting back to the story.

Hugs,
Erin

= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.

This narrative of which Erin speaks

elrodw's picture

Is pretty much how I 'outline' a story. It gives me enough detail to frame the sections without a lot of formality, and I've got freedom to jiggle things around some if I need to. If I can't write a narrative few lines for each scene, I find that I don't have enough mental imagery to write.

Imagination is more important than knowledge
A. Einstein

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Daniela Wolfe's picture

You could always tray doing a mind map or what I call an idea tree (even though it doesn't really resemble a tree). Basically you grab a big piece of paper (or else create a big image file on your computer) and just draw a line and draw out the plot of the story across the line. You can branch out from each plot point and if you have different possible ideas for how the story might turn out then you fork the line. I briefly used this approach before returning to my previously disorganized approach of basically flying by the seat of my pants.

It doesn't really matter how you do it, just find a method that works for you. I don't really believe its necessary for some writers to outline and I know of several big names that have stated they've never found it necessary. A lot of it just depends on your style and what will help you form a cohesive story.


Have delightfully devious day,

I've only ever made an "outline"...

ONCE. And I definitely didn't follow ANY of the rules. ;)

Of course my track record here isn't much to go by but GOD has my life been nothing but busy lately!

Anyways. That one time? School. Teacher MADE me make an outline. So what do I do? Cheat of course. I wrote most of the crudest first draft first the way I normally do but without any editing, then created my "outline" from that and put in a few of the things that weren't in the crude first draft to make it look more authentic and then finished things up in a way that looked like I'd followed the assignment.

I find that for me, outlining completely annihilates creative thought.

That's not to say I don't find it convenient occasionally to organize my thoughts and research, but to any mind except my own... it just looks like a haphazard pile of computer files in a haphazard assortment of filetypes and data types. Even the text isn't all the same filetype even though it's the same data type... but that's part of the way my mind organizes it. And doing anything else would just kill the process.

Abigail Drew.

The challenge is ....

Kalkin62's picture

The challenge is to find a way to mark the path you intend to follow with the story, without over doing it, and damaging your urge to write the story in the first place.

Some people do very elaborate outlines, others very spare ones.

Personally, I use a sort of a file card system.

First I write down every idea I can think of in a big list, without much attention to order.

Then I put each idea on a file card (or more specifically, a virtual file card system, which Scrivener allows me to do). I then arrange the file cards in the order I like. Then I go through and write a bit on each one about how I think the scene the cards stands for should go.

Then I start writing.

THERE is lots of ideas out there

For outlining a story.

What works for one person probably wont work for you.

For some it's writing the ending first and then filling in the gaps.

Others draw out fancy spreadsheets worth of artwork in boxes for what they want in the story.

My stories are complete in my head inside of 3 minutes. The problem I have is getting them out fast before I get bored of them. Not always easy trust me.

Find out what works for you for planing anything not just a story and then go from there.

From talking with you, you are a meticulas person before you even think of writing the first line of a story so what might, I repeat might, work for you is a numbering system of the various idea parts of your story. Write down what you want to happen then number them in the sequence you want them to happen.

Whats it about?

Thats the first question. Next who are the main characters followed by minor ones. Next how would the beginning start followed by the ending. Once you know how you want the ending to be look at the beginning. Example

Beginning: In a world where scientists create a being who has the ability to teleports from one location to another. How do they control him/her/it. Being escapes. Teleports into unknown location. Opens rift to where it moves around in time.

Ending. A boy who is able to teleport through time had created a place for others like him to live.

Next what are any of the twists and turns you want to use? Was it a hermaphrodite or a three eyed purple monster eater. Due to a change in history it finds himself nolonger a monster but a girl. Later finds herself as a boy. Finds he has ability to alter history so begins to change more and more history. Bla bla bla.

You fill in the blanks.

Characters: What type of people are you creating? What are their personalities and so on.

Are you writing a short story or novel? The shorter it is the less detail may be required. The larger it is the more detail. You have to decide as you work through the process. Overall you are the creator and have to set some guidelines else you could loose yourself in the plot and so on.

It's the idea I wrote about in the previous blog entry...

Ragtime Rachel's picture

...about the child star who comes out as transgender. Live, on the air, no less.

I have a pretty good idea how I want it to start, and how I want it to end, but fear the ending is too obvious, and I can't figure out what road blocks to set up on the way to getting there.

Livin' A Ragtime Life,
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Rachel

Most ending are obvious

Most endings are obvious. They either end with the protagonist winning or losing. Living or dieing and so on. The problem is in the details of how you get there.

Then how does the transgender know that he/she is different? Does he/she keep it secret from others? Only to be caught or tells someone? The real story is not just the ending itself but the journey on how he/she came to that revelation.

If this is what's bothering you on the writing then the story itself is not fully developed. For some who write they let the mind go and fill in the blanks as they 'freestyle' the writing. Letting themselves be taken along on the journey.

If it is thought out then the outline is more obvious. The question is are you trying to make it a surprise to both the audience and the character? That's the trick isn't it. But most readers have seen it all. There are many, many stories out there that puts the protagonist in that dilemma. Think of the movie Tootsie. The protagonist became female not for the purpose of being transgender but to find work. In his experience he not only observed life from the female side he found out what others thought of him also. It was an eye opener. He found the drawbacks that society had placed on woman as well as woman who viewed other women as they tried to get ahead. What started off as a journey to find work found that his journey also took him into the pitfalls of how women are treated. Sex objects, schanks, and so on.

A very reveling story in that it came from the male side. He started to understand what woman were going through because people viewed him as such. So when it came time for him to reveal himself for who he was the surprise was not to him but to his fellow workers and the audience as a whole. To 'US' as the audience, we knew from the beginning who he was but the journey was of self-discovery of 'not of what we expected' but the unexpected. His defense of woman and so on.

Now you as the writer has to see where the journey will take you and your character. We the audience will always make judgement calls, its our nature. We like to guess and so on.

I will use my story as an example. Why did the boy decide to live his life as a girl in BB? It wasn't revealed until the end that it was a life and death situation. He was kidnapped only to risk his life saving others lives who had the power to change him. Did it end there? No the twist was in that he didn't want to live as a girl. It took others to convince him to stay. Did the audience/readers know? They only knew that she had been a boy and that it was a reluctant decision. As more of the story unfolded a little bit more of the truth came out. So don't try to second guess the audience, second guess what made the reason why.

I hope this helps you in some way.

Ibi

Outline

I dread my outline - but that's only because I'm overweight!

I have found that the only real outline I use is the basic premise of the story.
I start typing and the story appears on the page.
For one of my stories (to be posted soon, as Julia and I are working in tandem on it) I just typed and the result was practically pornographic. I didn't know my brain and fingers had that degree of smut in them.
After I finish a story, I let it sit for a few days before returning to it.
In this case, I then removed the smut, and just hinted at it and ended with the story as I first envisaged it.
Your brain is a very powerful implement.
Just let it run, without interference, then tidy up afterwards, is my advice.
Don't try to pre-set what you want your brain to do with a formal structure which tends to drag the creative juices out of the process, imho.

Keep up the good work.

Di.

"The Cost of Living Does Not Appear To Have Affected Its Popularity"in most, but not all, instances

Well outlines depend on how

Well outlines depend on how far you've already plotted out the story in your mind. To write more into an outline or plot can make sense to see if the story works from the dramatics.

One of my greater outlines was for the story Werewoman - Sensate. That's pretty much the whole plot that I've decided before I even started writing.

SPOILER WARNING

Nerd, unemployed and unsuccessful with women is dragged to a party by some of his mates. He’d rather play a new computer game, watch an anime or read one of his favorite rule 34 fanfics.
His friends go dancing with some girls and he’s been left alone. He’s rather pissed and plans to go home; playing WoW is way more fun than this anyway. Suddenly beautiful women talks to him. He instantly likes her, but she dominates their conversation. She talks about politics, one of the few themes he can actually talk about.
Then she asks him if he wants to follow her home. He’s still a virgin and a bit shy. But she can convince him since he’s drunk and she tells him it’s better to follow her home. There they both cuddle on her couch and after feeding him some snacks she makes him really hot and asks if he wants to fuck her. He’s aroused enough that he accepts, but confesses that he’s a virgin. She grins and says she knows.
He loses his virginity and spends the night with her. The next morning she tells him to return in the evening. He goes home to play some further pc games, but doesn’t really the same satisfaction as usual. He can’t help himself thinking about her. In the evening he appears early and they talk about stuff. He tells her about his pitiful life. She doesn’t seem to be too worried though, amazing, especially since she seems to be rich. (No hypergamy)
When the darkness falls they’re watching a movie about werewolves. Suddenly his whole body convulses in pleasure he has an orgasm for five minutes and when he can think again he realizes he’s a girl.
Second personality kicks in and her body really feels right. She loves the feel of her boobs and her crotch. Alpha pulls her out of her reverie and shows her how to use makeup and polishes her nails. Alpha intends to figure out the dimensions of the second personality. She doesn’t complain once and draws in the new knowledge like a sponge-
She starts rubbing her legs together and squirms on her seat. Alpha asks what her problem is and she tells Alpha that she wants, no needs to be touched. Realization dawns Alpha, it’s a sensate. Alpha touches Sensate’s breast. Sensate starts an orgasm. They have sex afterwards until Alpha is exhausted. Sensate still wants more, so alpha gives her a dildo. Sensate dildoes herself until she drops unconscious.
The next day Sensate wakes up as a guy. He’s disgusted by the memories of last night. Being nothing but a sex-addicted slut. He realizes he still has nail polish on his hands and searches the bathroom for nail polish remover. Then he goes in the kitchen and realizes alpha is gone. Alpha has left a message, that Sensate is expected to be back in the evening.
Sensate runs away, planning to stay away forever. On his way home, Sensate wonders how nice it would be to suck the hot guy’s dick, which freaks him even more. When he returns home, he has no motivation to play his games at all. His normal ways to spend his time don’t satisfy him at all. Out of frustration he goes shopping for groceries. That doesn’t really make things better though. Even the fat guy at the checkout seems attractive. When he returns home, he tries jacking off, but that only makes him fantasize having his nonexistent boobies rubbed and being penetrated where he has no hole.
Although he fears what happened to him last night Sensate needs to return to Alpha’s home. He’s let in by a new woman. She looks like a goth. Goth leads her in the living room. A superbly beautiful woman is waiting there. Goth and Model tell Sensate what she is, Alpha forgot doing that yesterday. What type of werewomen they are and how being a werewoman works. Alpha returns, he’s a guy now. Sensate doesn’t really recognize him, but then she feels his presence. An older guy comes with Alpha. Alpha talks to Sensate and properly introduces him. Sensate tells Alpha his fears. Then Sensate changes, while the others talk about the problem a sensate poses. They’ve gotten nowhere, when Sensate has finished her transformation.
Sensate instantly craves sex. Still they need to discuss her situation, so they bind Sensate with their bondage gear, put a vibrator in her pussy and vibrating nipple clamps on her boobs. They also gag her, to muffle her lustful screams. Alpha and Goth realizes how distressed Sensate is about her Situation and Goth tries to calm her.
They conclude it would be best for her to work as a prostitute. Alpha has a friend who runs a good brothel. She’ll work night shifts and life her days with the harem at the Alpha’s mansion. Sensate thinks a steady supply of sex is a good idea, so she’ll take a job at the whorehouse while still draw social security.
Goth cares for her sexual needs. Once she’s able to think about something else than sex, Goth talks to her about her life. Sensate tells her what she did, and why she’s been such a social failure. Sensate is glad someone really cares for her. She’s actually interested in Goths problem too…
Model, Normal and Sensate will stay at Alpha’s mansion, while Goth has her own house. Goth wants to leave early, but Alpha’s orders her to stay and sleep in a guest room. Alpha, Model and Normal fuck Sensate. Alpha needs to rest too, since he also has to work, but Model and Normal fuck her the rest of the night until they all start to drop of exhaustion. Sensate crawls into Goth’s bed.
She wakes up way to early when Goth leaves. Sensate is male again as is Goth. He doesn’t look goth in his male form though. Sensate realizes that he’s in love with Goth. Goth dresses and when he wants to leave, Sensate stands up and gives him a kiss on his mouth. Goth responds and tells Sensate he loves him too.
Sensate goes back to bed and sleeps until afternoon. He eats and checks out the house. Goth returns, and changes into a her as soon as s/he’s at Alpha’s mansion. Goth asks Sensate to play play station, but Sensate doesn’t really enjoy it, which really distresses him. Goth decides to teach him about engineering since there is no reason why Sensate shouldn’t use his head for something else than to figure out a way to get herself penetrated.
The main difference between Sensate male and female version is his/her attitude on gender and the need to have sex. While the male version is disgusted of himself, the female version loves her new addiction.
Alpha returns and turns Sensate into a female. Then they fuck. Sensate start’s her job as a prostitute, while the rest of the harem establishes their connections.

END SPOILER

I wrote far less for the first chapter of Jan's tale. While I had written down some information about the characters, the outline/plot for the > 10000 word chapter was only two paragraphs.

SPOILER WARNING

Plot: Protagonist is on the train. Muses about the way he got to Whateley. Leaves train and muses about reflection in the mirror. Decides to talk to students, but they talk really fast in his opinion. Not that good in english. Girl talks to him (happy TG) and asks about his progress. Wants to suggest dresses and makeup. Thinks his current stuff doesn’t fit so well.

That pisses him off and he leaves. Reads a book in his corner as he doesn’t want to intrude on conversations. Leaves with bus and listens in on conversations. Ayla introduces himself and they tell their stories. Protagonist feels bad about going off at the girl like that. Ayla leads the group around. Protagonist ends up in room with his “enemy.”

END SPOILER

It obviously doesn't make much sense to outline chapters in the beginning. That'll only hinder you in your creative writing process. You'll probably change that anyway. One chapter may become three and four planned chapters may just get discarded or shrunk down into one.

I story board it in my head but generally.

think of it since it's about a child star doing each section with the things you want in each espisode.

You can do it as a series or all together either way it works for me.
*Big Hugs*

Bailey Summers

I think two different...

I think two different flavors of outline would help you. One is an ideas outline - the other is a plot outline.

The ideas outline is almost the harder in many ways... So I'll get to it second.

A plot outline is fairly simple in concept. How far a person takes it is up to them. The basic idea is you make a heading for each major "event" in your story (Chapters or sections that contain chapters, eventually) in the order they should happen in the story. Then, you make sub headings for minor events along the way... And keep doing this until you've got enough to write (& keep things straight as to what happens when). As you go, don't hesitate to add "body text" where you might write about what's going to happen there... I've known some people who keep writing in the outline mode and end up with all, or most of the story written as they wrote to fill in the spaces in the outline. (I don't go to this level for most of the story, though a time or two I HAVE written stuff in the outline that I took "as is" and put into the story.

The ideas outline is a place where you can organize the ideas you THINK belong in the story. They can be challenges to be overcome. They can be puns you want to work in. They can be historical figures or events you want to reference. They can even be people you know that you want to "honor" in some way. They can be character sketches of someone who should be in the story. The list of what goes here can be almost endless. Once you get a few of them jotted down, you can start to "categorize" and "organize" them... My experience here is that unless you've an outline from a previous story, you end up building this from the leaves to the roots (i.e. backwards).

Hope the ideas help you.
Annette

The reasons for the method of

The reasons for the method of outlining they taught in school went out the window when they invented the computer word processor. In the 80's as an early computer user I drove my teachers crazy because they insisted on 'an outline, a rough draft, and a final copy', and with the computer I'd have done 20 different 'rough drafts' before finishing my outline (I'd have an outline that already had paragraphs of final text in the middle). The ability to change anything at any time, before printing eliminated most need for the structure they required to prevent you from needing to hand write/ re-type your paper from the start more than twice.

The method I've found most useful is to have a short sentence or blurb on a separate line for each section/ paragraph/ scene. Then whenever you've got more just replace any blurb with an expanded description or 'final text'.

Nicki

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