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My condolences to my neighbours in the west with the choice for BREXIT :(. *sigh* It's the end of a period /era that started with the Union of Coal and Steel (predecessor current EU from the late '40 early '50's). It makes me wonder about humanity future especially with 'reading' similar things to the 1920's.
And it isn't over yet ...
Lynne
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They Went Mad
They must have had all these visions of Great Britain when they had an Empire, which haven't been real since WW2. I shudder to think where they are heading.
Disappointed, Dismayed And Disgusted
I'm not sure I can express my feelings towards this result without resorting to foul and abusive language. To call it a calamitous act of mass stupidity is surely no exaggeration.
The immediate effects probably won't be too bad once the City boys have finished making fortunes out of it. I just hope I slide into senility before the long-term consequences begin to bite.
Am I ashamed to be English this morning? Too fucking right I am.
This Morning
I am British totally sane and not a rabid nationalist and happy to be part of an economic alliance. Sadly the european project as Junker called again this morning is in my opinion a failed political experiment to quote Boris Johnson this morning it was a noble idea but is no longer relevant. I have no trouble with europe and europeans what i do have trouble with are the many political aspects of an organisation led by the commissioners ie unelected failed national politicians such as Nieil Kinnock etc. When we joined the common market we the electorate were not voting to join a federalisation by stealth european project or experiment both terms used by eu leaders in most speeches. That in the main was wished upon us by a political elite here and abroad
Only the beginning?
What worries me isn't so much what the UK is doing. What worries me is that the same thing is happening elsewhere. They say Geert Wilders is leading in the polls in the Netherlands. I'm having more trouble finding out how the parties of hate are doing in other European countries (because the USA press does such a great job of reporting anything outside the borders of the US. Not.) Shades of the 1920's, only this time it's "the immigrants" and "the muslims" and "the refugees."
But there in the USA, the Republican party has also become the party of hate. (And, yes, anti-Semitism was quite fashionable here up until Hitler managed to make it embarrassing.)
To make it more TG relevant: the Republican party has also embraced hatred of LGBT people. I remember that LGBT people were treated as threats by the hate parties back in the '20's and '30's. Is that coming back in Europe and the UK as well?
The Far Right In Europe Are More Concerned About Colour
I believe that much of the Republicans' hatred of LGBT people reflects the attitude of the Christian right, a force that barely exists in the UK and Western Europe. Radical Islam is considered a far greater threat to the LGBT community - in fact this is one of the arguments some have used in an attempt to justify stricter immigration controls.
Brexit
I sick and tired of every so called celebrity giving their unwanted opinion in this vote. Most of them hide away overseas in Tax exiles. Also it is the prerogative of the British people to decide not people from other counties. It is a good day for the British people, If the mandarins in Whitehall had fought harder for the nation the referendum would not have been needed. The money wasted on the carpetbagger in Brussel came be better spent here.
ELIZA
It Is Not A Good Day For 48% Of Us
The irony is that very few people asked for this referendum. It came about purely because of Tory infighting. David Cameron has now paid the price for his colossal misjudgement* while the rest of us can only wait out the chaos and hope for the best.
*For readers unfamiliar with UK politics: Cameron promised a referendum before the 2015 General Election, hoping it would dissuade the Eurosceptics in his party from joining UKIP. He did this in the firm belief that he couldn't win an overall majority and that in a hung Parliament the issue would be sidelined.
to use a poem ...
The hangman (Maurice Ogden)
Scotland is already trying to leave the UK. As is Northern Ireland.
The only good thing about it (for those of us left in the EU) is that it's one country less with a veto vote capability.
Is the UK better of? Depends. They'll probably end up paying a kind of fee for staying in the open market. If it's the same as Norway then they have all the duties (same basic regulations as now) and none of the input (no vote) or rewards (not grantmoney) and the financial fee. It also would mean free moving of people, goods and services same as now ... So why did they want to leave again??
Lynne
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it,"
(Jorge Agustín Nicolás Ruiz de Santayana y Borrás )