Twenty-five years ago I read a story on another website and the story of a TG romance has never entirely left me. I decide to look up the story again and it is still listed on a small TG part of a story site for gay men. It is a story that has nothing to do with being gay and there are no characters in the book that are gay.
I read the story again and it still appeals to me. It is called Skin-deep. It is really a novella, and although the author says that it was edited. I see very little sign of any active editing.
Not unreasonably, the author claims copyright. It appears to be his only published work on any searches I can do.
I would like to edit and refresh the story, but the email listed by the author in 1999 no longer works and the only person on Big Closet with a similar name says that he is not the author. A search on Amazon, Abebooks etc brings up an author with the same name, but all the books listed are non-fiction.
The alterations I envisage would be sufficiently major to avoid any legal breach of copyright.
I would welcome the opinions of other authors and readers over the idea of refreshing another author's work with a proper acknowledgement of the original idea.
Comments please.
Regards
Columbine
Comments
Disclaimer
Unless the author specifically said that the work may not be reposted elsewhere without permission, I'd say that there are ways that you could do that.
The criteria that I would follow is:
Here's how I handled it when I finished Jeremy Chandler's "My Summer in Pantyhose"
This is an unauthorized continuation of Jeremy Chandler’s, “My Summer in Pantyhose,” last added to by Jeremy 04/07/2023. The story line and characters belong to Jeremy Chandler and are used without express permission. What follows is intended as fan fiction with the greatest of admiration for Jeremy and appreciation for the original work.
Hugs
Patricia
Happiness is being all dressed up and HAVING some place to go.
Semper in femineo gerunt
Ich bin ein femininer Mann
Nothing New Under the Sun
If you're changing it enough to make it your own -- more than just names, but decent parts of it -- then it becomes your story inspired by theirs. Giving them credit as the inspiration for your story would be the right thing to do, especially if you would like their story to be better known, but let's be honest: you could look through our own archives and find thousands of arguably completely original stories that, plot-wise, are almost beat-for-beat recreations of one another. The trans fiction space is already rife with borrowing, copying, and inspiration. The more you make your version of the plot your own the better, though.
Simply re-posting or editing and reposting theirs without permission is on much more shaky ground. It sounds like you've done due diligence trying to contact them, and I feel like the statute of limitations on abandoned internet media is worth discussing as it pertains to archiving content from one place to another.
For now, what if you shared a link to the story you're talking about so others can enjoy it too?
Melanie E.
If this is
The same story I'm thinking of , I seem to recall a few stories in this line-up. Now all I need is to figure out where i might have seen it in recent memory.
Comments from people whose writing I admire.
I have been asked to share the web address for the story that I find beguiling in most respects, but flawed in others.
This is the web address for the story. It has intrigued me on and off for 25 years. Most of you will say, at least to yourselves. "What is the fuss all about? ... perhaps not!
https://www.nifty.org/nifty/transgender/Magic-ScFi/skin-deep/
Regards, Columbine
Thanks for the link!
I'll have to check this out! I never visited Nifty much back in the day -- I got my start reading TG fic on Crystal's.
Melanie E.
A blast from the past
I found “Nifty” pretty soon after joining the Internet back in the late 1990s, and started devouring the transgender stories over a long-distance dial-up connection. I would open several stories in separate browser windows, disconnect and read off-line. There were quite a few good stories there, but separating the wheat from the chaff was nearly impossible in those nearly endless chronological directory listings. Personally I also enjoyed several stories from the lesbian category, but the gay category was a pretty massive personal turn-off. Since that was mostly about inserting a penis into any and all available holes, often with “unwilling” participants.
I am surprised at how long “Nifty” has survived from its origins in the dark ages of BBS into the current times of nicely presented (a.k.a. formatted) reading materials. Bridging the gap from the BBS world, then came “FictionMania” and “Crystal's StorySite” that display some metadata for search and pre-selection but still present the story itself mostly as a plain text file. Then we got fully formatted story sites like “Stardust” (sadly disappeared after Bob Arnold suddenly died) and our very own “BigCloset TopShelf”.
Ever since I found Stardust and BigCloset I pretty much abandoned the former sites. For me, the main reason is the predominant focus on the physical sex acts that [deliberately] exclude the healthy relationship aspects. What they call “love” is often nothing more than animalistic lust, carnal sex and frankly plain and simple abuse and exploitation for the benefit of the perpetrator.
But as we used to say way back in high school: Exceptions confirm the rule. Even among all that dirt and grime, there were a few precious gems. Those that stuck in my mind are the “Joe Bates Saga”, where a misconfigured radio transmitter for airplane navigation alters the DNA from XY to XX and changes the exposed person from male to female in about 24 hours. (Kind of reminds me of how the microwave oven was “invented” or discovered.) The multi-part story follows the crew from their “spontaneous” transformation through the discovery of the cause to the experimental use for witness protection. (I just noticed that the chapter listing order is all messed up.) The other gem I remember is “Duty, Honor, Country (a 253 KB text file) about the creation of a very elite special squad made from small and delicate bodied soldiers. These soldiers learn to present as delicate damsels in distress but are extremely deadly and effective in darker than a black hole black operations. There was also a sequel where this squad went on a space shuttle mission to a private space station that was holding all the governments hostage with threats of nuclear and/or kinetic energy strikes. They were able to neutralize the megalomaniac, but lost one of their members in space. I can not find that story in the directory listing, since I do not remember the exact title or file name. This was supposed to be a trilogy of stories, but I never found the last part of a very interesting and riveting plot.
Back in the day
You and I have similar internet past. I started out with an AOL dial up at 1200 baud. I would open AOL to establish an internet connection then minimize it and open Netscape or Internet Explorer call up the story I was interested in; then it was Ctl A, Ctl C; open word and Ctl V. Rinse and repeat for six to eight stories. Then close AOL to free up the phone line.
After all these years and a half dozen computers, I still have the archive from those days.
I also spent time in Bulletin Boards. Alt.fashion.crossdress and alt.support.crossdress. They were the closest thing to a community that existed in those days. I graduated from them to Yahoo groups like The Secret Garden. I discovered the same sites you mentioned, but didn't really find a home until BCTS. It's pretty much my source for TG fiction and more importantly connecting with like minded souls. It's the only real TG community that I've found on the internet.
Hugs
Patricia
Happiness is being all dressed up and HAVING some place to go.
Semper in femineo gerunt
Ich bin ein femininer Mann
Comments from people whose writing I admire.
I have been asked to share the web address for the story that I find beguiling in most respects, but flawed in others.
This is the web address for the story. It has intrigued me on and off for 25 years. Most of you will say, at least to yourselves. "What is the fuss all about? ... perhaps not!
https://www.nifty.org/nifty/transgender/Magic-ScFi/skin-deep/
Regards, Columbine
no brain fart this time
i knew i had seen multiple entries for skin deep. i found a saved entry from big closet dated july 2024. i found vengeance is skin deep from july 2015, i found 3 entries titled skin deep from oct 2009, and i found three entries under urban legends skin deep from may 2006. those are save dates, not published dates necessarily. a quick glance it doesn't seem any are related very closely.
Also on Fictionmania
This author and story is also located on Fictionmania.tv -- there is Skin-Deep, Skin-Deep II, and Skin-Deep III as well as Dancing on Daddy's Shoes. The last author entries seem to be from 2021 - but perhaps you can contact them through their feedback page.
Just a thought.
Jeri
Jeri Elaine
Homonyms, synonyms, heterographs, contractions, slang, colloquialisms, clichés, spoonerisms, and plain old misspellings are the bane of writers, but the art and magic of the story is in the telling not in the spelling.
Write Your Own Story
A better option is to just use that previous story as a framework and tell your own around it. You get more freedom to change things if you're not restricted to the original plot and characters.