Writing Multi-chapter Stories

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When it comes to writing stories, I think of myself as a sprinter. I'll get burst of creative energy, but tend to feel winded by the time I've reached the end a story. I think I've only written a story with over a dozen chapters once. But ... I do find there's times when I enjoy writing multi-chapter stories. I just wish I had more stamina for them.

So, for anyone who's written longer stories, where do you get the stamina to stay with them for more than a few chapters?

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erin's picture

The feedback I get from posting works in progress is what keeps me going.

Hugs,
Erin

= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.

It depends ....

My experience with comments hasn't been all that satisfying.

An awful lot of the ones I've gotten on my stories seem to be trying to get me to write a different story from the one that the muse is whispering in my ear. And others don't seem to have even that much of an idea of what the story is about. If you're going to tell an author that they're doing it wrong, you first of all need to understand what the author is trying to do, but a lot of commenters don't seem to bother with that.

A few have pointed out issues with my stories that needed to get fixed, and I'm grateful for those.

I write for myself, to fulfill my own needs, not to satisfy the commentariat's wishes, and I don't plan to turn my stories into something different just so they'll be more popular. But I do end up feeling kind of like I don't belong, when it seems like so many people only care about my stories to the extent that they match the popular BigCloset tropes.

I agree with Erin

Emma Anne Tate's picture

I definitely feed off comments. When readers are engaged, I know I’ve done something right. But, the other element for me is that, once I’ve established a character, I almost feel like I’m transcribing rather than creating. They become real for me (which may be a sign of mental health issues, but I’m no doctor!), and seem to want to tell their own stories.

Emma

Imagination and detail

are vital to writing longer stories. Look at the works of Dickens. Much of what he wrote was serialised in a weekly publication. He takes time and builds a character. We get to know them as if they are a close relative. Some we empathise with. Others we learn to loathe. All the interactions between the good and bad are part of the storytelling. Take your time. Don't rush. Don't be put off if at first, it isn't very good. You need a different set of writing skills for really short stories than those needed for novels. We all evolve as writers. Every piece we write should be treated as a challenge and a learning experience.

Erin talked about comments feeding her muse. For those who start posting incomplete works then that may work. Some of us work differently. Most of the stories I post here are already finished before I even start posting. Do what works for you.
Samantha

The risk

Angharad's picture

Is not being able to finish them, Bike is the longest short story on the site.

Angharad

short story

If Bike is a short story, it will take a whole forest to print your novel.

Hey, at least you finish the stories

My drives are littered with dozens unfinished stories. I swear my Muse has ADHD, she keeps dropping bits like this on me...

It was the first anniversary of the last time anyone saw Gary and she was, once again, eating alone. It was a date she would always remember although Gary didn't really abandon her. He loved her with all his heart and if the ring she found in his coat pocket meant anything, he wanted to spend his life with her forever. How could she have been so stupid? So what if she had been PMS'ing and had the worst ever day at work with wannabe "alpha" males sniping at her all week at work? That wasn't his fault, so why be so heartless and uncaring? And now, with his absence, she both loved, and missed, him more than ever before.

Followed by more nonsensical drivel.

So keep writing and we'll keep reading and loving your wonderful tales. long or short /hugs

Diana

I also agree with Erin.

I also agree with Erin. Comments good and/or constructive help keep the fire burning. And writing a story, Tommy, of over 250 chapters scared the hell out of me. But things just kept coming to me.

To be honest

Maddy Bell's picture

I never set out to write anything with more than a handful of chapters. Sometimes tho’ the characters take over and demand you write more! Which is how come there are now 27 Gaby books - lol.

They don’t always flow easily from the fingers, I find the more I write the more research and back story needs to be done, much like Mr Dickens, the devil is in the details. But that doesn’t mean over burdening the reader with information, you still need to keep it moving along.

I have to admit that I don’t do more than have a rough theme to most of my longer pieces, once I get into the flow stuff seems to develop quite organically.

And re read what you write, if it entertains you it will probably entertain prospective readers.

Some writers spend years crafting their magnum opus, others rattle stuff out like machine gun so don’t set yourself too stern a timetable that you might not be able to keep to. If you get stuck, put it aside until your muse solves the issue.

I usually now only post from complete stories, my choice, it means postings can be regular and keep the readers engaged.


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Madeline Anafrid Bell

Stamina

Erisian's picture

As one who has to finish the complete draft of the book before editing commences, I can't post chapters one by one as they come off the presses. Since the stories are at times comprised of several intertwining threads, adjusting which goes where can be important after the whole is on the pages. And then further adjustments/improvements are needed during the editing process to tie things together even better.

Comments and positive feedback however are still massively huge motivators, hence the posting of draft progress via blog entries to let folks know that yep, the next book IS still being worked on! Any days that the kudos counts alone go up are a boost to keep plugging away and not slack off. Noticing in the hit counters that someone out there is binge reading through everything is a big lift too. But I think the heart of the motivation, especially at this point, is the writing having become an obsession and an escape at the same time - because every idle moment is usually spent contemplating the entire saga arc if not the specifics of the next scene. The complexity of what is stuck in my head may also help keep the stamina up as there really is no way to resolve -everything- without using many books to tell the tale to the ending that awaits. Dunno if this level of obsessive focus is healthy, but it is what it is.

Sadly a close friend who was the leading cheerleader in getting me to really start writing stuff has suffered monumental depression for the last couple years (due to their health and other reasons), and keeps disappearing for a third to half a year at a time. I'll always treasure BCTS and the folks on here who've helped fill that cheer-leading gap to keep my spirits up whenever the self-doubt gremlins recommenced their perpetual assaults.

- Erisian <3

I don't post in chapters.

Patricia Marie Allen's picture

I don't post in chapters. Perhaps I should.

I find writing a short story very difficult. I've only managed a few. It takes me somewhere between 15 and 20 thousand words to tell a story. I try to make chapters about 1200 to 1600 words, so the chapters are rather short. Even at that, it sometimes takes years to complete a story. Like you, I seem to write as a sprinter. I rarely get a long story done without taking a break to do something else. Which is why I don't post in chapters. I don't want to leave anyone hanging while my muse gets around to giving me the rest of the story. I suppose that once it's finished, I could break it up and post a chapter or two at a time.

I usually find writing sequels a problem. However in the other genre I write I have a trilogy going and am nearly done with book three. About 20 chapters per book. It started in my mind as a single book, but as I told the story, it just got to involved to do in a single story. Then my muse provided two logical stopping points, (not ending points) so it evolved into a trilogy. Some how it just seems to flow.

That's the only way I can write. Just sit at the keyboard and let the story unfold onto the screen. When I get to a point where it isn't finished, but nothing more will unfold, I shelve it. l have a rough outline for each story in my head. When I start, I know the premise of the story, and just how it needs to end. As I begin writing, I fill in the points in the story that needs to take place for it to arrive at that end.

You might try working from an outline. I've had some writers tell me that they do that and it works well for them. You it start like I do, only before you write any part of the real story, you determine the steps necessary to achieve the end. Then you write the steps one at a time. Some writers can write salient parts first, leaving out the intervening steps and then go back and fill in the steps between those points.

I'd say think of each chapter as a short story and write a chapter at a time. The real difference between a chapter and a short story is that ending a chapter doesn't end the story, but instead it sets up the next chapter.

What's really important is that you have a good grasp of the back story. Not only the backstory for the story, but the backstory for each character that plays a main part in the telling. To that end, I set my stories in a location, I know well. I don't always let the reader know just where that is, but I know and it helps me to keep the long story from wandering. I then give each of my characters a job and a family background. Again, I don't always tell the reader any of that, but I know it.

Hugs
Patricia

Happiness is being all dressed up and HAVING some place to go.
Semper in femineo gerunt
Ich bin eine Mann

Writing Chapters

For me, its either boredom or the characters I'm writing about are so important to me, that I want to write their story. I like seeing the characters I created grow and experience different things. Sure, some of my stories are the same, but how one character handles a situation compared to say how another character would is unique.

Also, its fun to write about each character. I enjoy how Hatter/Aylin handles a problem, compare to how Jack or Cheshire would. Nora handles things differently than Anika or Sasha. So, its fun to write about them.

Plus, sometimes it enjoyable to write about the people all the main characters rescued. Like Jack's family, Nora's and Sasha's. Of course, sometimes, its important that stories are written about the supporting characters as well. How they are adjusting to their new life. So, that's how I keep writing chapters. I hope that helps. Also, having more than one story sometimes to write helps as well. That way you can break away from one story to jump into another story.

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If there's a book that you want to read, but it hasn't been written yet, then you must write it.”
― Toni Morrison

Multi-chapter stories (are not for me)

bryony marsh's picture

Personally, I avoid reading multi-part stories nowadays: won’t even click on ’em! There’s just too much potential for disappointment later on. Standards might slip as the full magnitude of the regular writing task hits home; the story might head off in a direction I find implausible or distasteful; the pace of release might be too slow; the chapters might be too short to allow me to settle into the world and enjoy it. Also, it might never get finished, of course! So: no multi-part stories for me. I might read something once it’s been completed, but I find that serialisation generally has a deleterious effect on the quality of a tale.

I recognise those bursts of energy that you mentioned. I find that they form around an idea and they don’t necessarily come in sequence. I might get an idea for a scene near the end of a story and if so I write that one. (I don’t publish a disembodied scene, of course.) I always start writing at the beginning, but then I might have a big fight scene, or a moral dilemma, a grand finale, a happy ‘domestic’ interlude... it comes together in random insights. The only thing that feels like hard work is joining something up when it doesn’t quite fit.

This, I do by leaving it alone for a few weeks, thinking about it at times but not writing: chewing it over until something occurs. I find that driving, without the radio on, is ideal for plotting. For example, I evaluated numerous variations on the scary parachute jump in ‘Ground Rush’ before I settled upon it being a consequence of a team-mate taking drugs. I knew I wanted to put a character in mortal danger at that point in the story, but how and why? If I’d been forced to release an episode a week, I’m sure I’d have written something I later regretted.

Once I’ve worked out the plot, I write the missing part(s). When the story is basically complete, I circulate it among long-suffering friends in my writers’ group, who kindly point out any flaws or missed opportunities in the plot. While I understand that getting appreciative comments from readers might give you motivation, I find it much better to get two or three insightful comments from writers – even if they give you a shellacking!

Meanwhile, a copy editor goes through the manuscript and if it’s a commercial project I’ll spend some time designing the cover while this happens. Producing a novel (in fact, half of mine are novellas) is a long haul, but it’s incredibly rewarding. It’s also a very different process to pushing out episodes on some kind of deadline and with no clear end goal. If I wanted to do that, I’d be working in television :)

Sugar and Spiiice – TG Fiction by Bryony Marsh

Regarding stamina

Iolanthe Portmanteaux's picture

For me, it's not about stamina. It's more about starting, over and over. Each day, the single moment of hitting the first key. If I can trick myself into doing THAT much, I can write for hours.

Twyla Tharp has a fairly good book called The Creative Habit, and my big take-away from it is the importance of starting the task. She lives in NYC, where taking a cab is an everyday experience for some, and the way she's found of working out each day is to call a cab when she wakes up -- the cab that takes her to her gym. Doing THAT means the rest will follow.

(Yes, I realize this means she has enough money to belong to a gym and to take a cab every day -- that's not the point.)

I've got a workout that I do a couple of times each week, but doing it is not about dedication or discipline or having good habits -- not for me. The key is starting the first exercise, which is a couple of push-ups, I don't think about it or debate with myself. Knowing that if I felt like it, I could stop after the first one, allows me get on the floor and go. I've never stopped there, though: I'll go on to do the whole workout.

Same with making phone calls -- which I used to hate to do -- but if I ignored my inner dialog for a moment and started dialing the number, the rest would follow. I have to kind of trick myself into doing the first thing.

At the moment, I am on the last or next-to-last episode of a story I've been posting, and since I started posting it, I've been writing every weekday, several hours a day. I stop when I've had enough, or if something interrupts, but MANY MANY TIMES I did not want to begin. Not for love, or money, or all the tea in China. Rewarding myself makes no sense to me.

Honestly, as much fun as the story is for me to write (and it's been well-received!), at least half of those days I felt too lazy and unmotivated to even think about it.

BUT...

if I could make myself open the file and start revising the current episode, I'd be in. I'd keep on going. It's inertia. Until I open the file and correct a typo, I'm standing still. Once I hit a single key, I'm moving.

That old chestnut about "The journey begins with a single step" has a secret in it, for me. You don't need to plan the first step, or work yourself up to it. You only need to do it when you're not watching yourself.

- iolanthe

Oh wow!

I really wasn't expecting to see so many responses to this blog post. You've all given me a lot to think about. Thank you for your feedback! :)

There is no right or wrong way

to write. It is your muse and you are the best person to know how to channel her. What works for one person could well be totally abhorrent for another writer.
I normally let my imagination flow. What you get is what pops out the other end. When I start most of my stories, I have no idea of the end.
I am trying to work out a detailed plot for a novel but it is really hard. I need to do it this way because the plot is so complicated and the cast of characters is large. This is my own fault for trying to write a who-dun-it of who-dun-its.

Do what is right for you and try not to let anyone dictate how you write.
Samantha