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'Preferred' pronouns gain traction at US colleges
Associated Press By LISA LEFF
OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) – The weekly meetings of Mouthing Off!, a group for students at Mills College in Oakland, Calif., who identify as gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender, always start the same way. Members take turns going around the room saying their names and the personal pronouns they want others to use when referring to them – she, he or something else.
It's an exercise that might seem superfluous given that Mills, a small and leafy liberal arts school historically referred to as the Vassar of the West, only admits women as undergraduates. Yet increasingly, the "shes" and "hers" that dominate the introductions are keeping third-person company with "they," ''ze" and other neutral alternatives meant to convey a more generous notion of gender.
"Because I go to an all-women's college, a lot of people are like, 'If you don't identify as a woman, how did you get in?'" said sophomore Skylar Crownover, 19, who is president of Mouthing Off! and prefers to be mentioned as a singular they, but also answers to he. "I just tell them the application asks you to mark your sex and I did. It didn't ask me for my gender."
On high school and college campuses and in certain political and social media circles, the growing visibility of a small, but semantically committed cadre of young people who, like Crownover, self-identify as "genderqueer" – neither male nor female but an androgynous hybrid or rejection of both – is challenging anew the limits of Western comprehension and the English language.
Though still in search of mainstream acceptance, students and staff members who describe themselves in terms such as agender, bigender, third gender or gender-fluid are requesting – and sometimes finding – linguistic recognition.
Inviting students to state their preferred gender pronouns, known as PGPs for short, and encouraging classmates to use unfamiliar ones such as "ze,'''sie," ''e," ''ou" and "ve" has become an accepted back-to-school practice for professors, dorm advisers, club sponsors, workshop leaders and health care providers at several schools.
The phenomenon gained notice in the San Francisco Bay area in early November after an 18-year-old student at a private high school in Berkeley suffered severe burns when a 16-year-old boy set fire to the student's skirt while the two were riding a public bus. The parents of the injured student, Sascha Fleischman, said their son is biologically male but identifies as agender and favors they as a pronoun.
At the University of Vermont, students who elect to change their names and/or pronouns on class rosters now can choose from she, he and ze, as well as the option of being referred to by only their names. Hampshire College in Massachusetts advertises its inclusiveness by listing the gender pronouns of its tour guides on the school's web site. And intake forms at the University of California, Berkeley's student health center include spaces for male, female or other.
At Mills, the changes have included tweaking some long-standing traditions. New students are now called "first-years" instead of "freshwomen." The student government also has edited the college's historic chant – "Strong women! Proud women! All women! Mills women!" to "Strong, Proud, All, Mills!"
The nods to novel pronouns and nonconformity are an outgrowth of campaigns for gender-neutral bathrooms and housing that were aimed at making campuses more welcoming for transgender students moving from one side of the gender spectrum to the other. But as fewer young people choose to undergo sex reassignment surgery, such students are slowly being outnumbered by peers who refuse to be limited, said Genny Beemyn, director of the Stonewall Center at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst.
"Certainly we see students who are transitioning, particularly female to male, but the vast majority of students who identify under the trans umbrella identify in some way outside the binary, and that's really causing a shift on college campuses," said Beemyn, who studies gender identity in higher education and recently traded ze for they. "Having role models and examples allows people to say 'Yes, what I am feeling is legitimate.'"
As neologisms like "ze" have moved beyond conversation and into students' academic papers, some professors have expressed annoyance and uncertainty about how to respond, said Lucy Ferriss, writer-in-residence at Trinity College in Connecticut and a frequent contributor to the Chronicle of Higher Education's language blog, Lingua Franca. .
"There is an initial discomfort. I think it's probably hypocritical to pretend there isn't, to say, 'Ok, that's what they want to do' and leave it at that," Ferriss said. "The people I know who teach will say 'This is weird and it's cumbersome and it's not going to last because it's not organic.'"
At the same time, Ferris thinks it's a mistake for scholars and grammarians to dismiss the trend without considering whether English and society might be served by less-rigid ideas about gender.
"Mail carrier did not evolve organically and it's a lot easier to say mailman. Decades ago there were poets who refused to be called poetesses," she said. "Most language has evolved organically, but there have been times – and when it comes to issues of gender there probably have to be times – when there are people willing to push the envelope."
Mel Goodwin, youth program director at the gay and lesbian community center in Las Vegas, said getting the hang of alternative pronouns can be tricky in conversation. Goodwin, 28, claimed they as a preferred pronoun four years ago and it took time "to unlearn what I had been taught about gender."
Yet when people object to they as being grammatically incorrect, Goodwin counters that modern English is to blame and that scholars, writers and linguists have spent more than a century trying to come up with gender-neutral pronouns that stick. In public presentations, Goodwin also refers to a map that shows historic and contemporary cultures around the world that have recognized more than two genders.
"This is not about young people in the U.S. over the last 20 years kind of coming out of the woodwork and making up labels that aren't real," Goodwin said. "This is a real variation among humans, period."
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Interesting enough there was
Interesting enough there was an article on Foxnew.com (I'm a news junky and check out news from all kinds of sources, left or right or whatever. Tell you the truth it's the only way I've found to get a real picture of what's going on, at least as good a one as you can get given humans natural bias.) about the teen in California who doesn't identify with a gender and had their skirt set on fire in a bus. The interesting thing is that Foxnews didn't insist in using a male or female pronoun. Of course I believe the story is originally from the AP, but still, having the people at fox not 'fix' the article is incredible liberal, at least by their normal standards.
Thay, thair, tham, thairself
For the gender and number neutral pronoun, I propose this quartet: Thay, thair, tham, thairself. The advantage is that all are pronounced just like the they variants which are what people use in speaking quite naturally when they don't know someone's gender.
Hugs,
Erin
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
I Can't Stand 'They'
As a singular personal pronoun. As most know, I use E, er and erself. I'm getting a little better over the years, but still whenever I read 'they', I go "they who?" and look for another person to warrant the plural form. I suppose it has something to do with my Asperger's.
'They' already has a definition. Making it plural and singular just makes our language harder to understand. I might be sticking in the mud, but I'm all for change, for having a gender neutral third person singular pronoun. I would just like a new word, not confusion from an old one.
Hugs and Bright Blessings,
Renee
I agree
I have a problem with 'they,' too, and don't use it as a singular gender-neutral pronoun. I would like to see a singular gender-neutral pronoun come into general use and be official and all that, but I suspect that the English language is going to naturally evolve so that 'they' is the preferred term. Things like that have happened before, with terms like 'OK' (or 'okay.')
Think about the term 'gay.' If you look it up in a dictionary, it gives you the old definition of 'happy' and the new definition. Unless someone (someones?) comes up with and starts using an acceptable term, it's going to end up being 'they.' The fact that it used to be only used as a plural form will become a historical note.
I don't have to like it to recognize that it will probably happen.
blarg
As for evolving, the epicene they...
...has a history in English that goes back to Middle English at least, possibly prompted by the loss of grammatical gender in everyday English.
The objections to it are mostly silly, since such twists and turns are common in the history of many languages. If one says ‘Sharon, you are early!’ for example, one is using a formerly plural form of the verb in a singular context. So too, epicene they always takes the plural, even when it refers to singular antecedents.
In general, one only avoids it through the use of awkward and inelegant (not to mention inaccurate) substitutions, as by insisting that a group of a thousand people, all of whom are female except for one or two exceptions, should be referenced by masculine pronouns:
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Cheers,
Puddin'
A tender heart is an asset to an editor: it helps us be ruthless in a tactful way.
--- The Chicago Manual of Style
This is Fucked Up.
At least for me it is, having spent my whole life fighting to be recognized as a woman and now someone wants to minimize that? Over my dead body.
G
Why?
Why do you think what someone else wants to be called affects what you are called? There is no single answer here and that, of course, is what the problem is.
Hugs,
Erin
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
Well...
When they ask you for your preferred pronoun, say 'she.'
It's as legitimate for you to prefer 'her' as it is for someone to prefer 'shi' or 'ze' or whatever.
What do these other pronouns mean, anyhow?
I think we need pronouns for:
male
female
neuter
both (hemaphrodite, or a person who puts on whatever gender shi feels like at the time.)
There are a lot of subtile shades. One can be male with lots of female characteristics, no gender, or both genders. Also, one can identify as a single gender internally, but refuse to express that externally. If we don't come up with some kind of a system, a mess will evolve. It's happened before. For instance, there are standard ways to conjugate a verb, but a lot of the more common verbs are irregular.
In the Chakat universe, the standard he/him/she/her is used, along with 'shi' and 'hir' (for hermaphrodites,) and 'hy' and 'hym' (for those who can shift gender at will.)
Needless to say...
Wikipedia has plenty to contribute to the subject - particularly in the article Gender-specific and gender-neutral pronouns. It also covers Spivak pronouns, Singular they (in use since the fifteenth century, so as others have said is the most likely candidate for a third person neuter pronoun given the perceived unsuitability of "he" or "it") and even Gender neutrality in English.
Needless to say, you can also learn about the history of the second person pronouns Ye (pronoun) (not to be confused with ye = þe = the), Thou (which in certain cases modified the ending of the following verb) and You (but be warned, the articles are full of linguistic jargon).
As the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only left-handers are in their right mind!