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Criticism has a bad connotation to it, but it really doesn't have to be taken in a bad way. I will point it out using my own writing as an example.
Last night I posted the forth part of my Christmas story. I was quite eager to put it up, so I did a quick read through to try and catch all the errors that I could. Since we are so close to Christmas, I didn't give it to anyone to read and there was a glaring, I mean really bone headed of me mistake. I swapped one Character's name for another (I also had 2 minor errors in there as well).
I didn't catch it. In fact, I almost flew past it when I knew it was in there. Someone was kind enough to point out the fact that I had errors. Was this an attack? No. Was it insulting? No. Did I feel embarrassed and was my ego bruised? Of course. Was me being embarrassed because of something I did or because my flaw was pointed out? Probably both, because I would have never known I had a ditzy moment without being shown to it, but the mistakes were mine. Am I mad at the person who pointed out the mistakes to me? Absolutely not. I don't mention there names out of a courtesy, but they are more than welcome to raise their hand and chime in.
This is my point. Just because someone shows me my mistakes, doesn't mean they are attacking me. There is one thing to say, hey, I noticed a mistake, and quite another to say, you're the worst writer ever and you should never post a story again until you pass the first grade. One is an attack, the other is not.
I think that anyone who puts things out there for public consumption has a few duties and one of those is to put the best you can do out there. How do you do that on this site?
1. Proof read your stories. Yes, you probably won't catch everything and everyone has mental lapses, but in the very least, give it a once through and you'd be amazed at how much you catch. I actually do my read through while I am writing. I will get a paragraph in or a few lines of dialogue and then re-read what I wrote and usually I catch the bulk of my errors (but I am not infallible)
2. Take criticism with a grain of salt. Most of the time people don't point out your flaws because they want to put you down. When I take time to do it to others (which has gone over like a lead balloon), it is because I want to see them grow as a writer like I have grown. I can barely stand to read my earlier stuff and that's when everyone was telling me I told great stories.
3. Take praise well. Going back to my previous statement. Don't take people telling you that you are great as an excuse not to grow. At the same time, don't poo-poo the kind comments and put yourself down either (someone on Facebook knows who I am talking about).
4. Pace yourself. It is a trap every author gets into and I think I do to. Mainly because you can post instantly, you get into this rush "Oh I got to share this". That is what happened with my post last night, so don't think I am pointing any individual out. To be honest, did my story need to go up right after I hit save. No. And things slipped through my need to be manicured fingers. It also helps when you are posting something that has a large amount of multiple chapters (yes, I do realize that sometimes you think a story is going to be 4 post and then 1894 episodes later and MTV calling you about a possible reality based tv show, things can get away from you), it helps to keep to a schedule and maybe have a few chapters in your back pocket for those times when your muse isn't as hopped up on methamphetamines as it once was. Take my current novel. I was writing consistently 2000 words a day and now it is on the back burner. Why? Because after 2 months I grew weary. I can tell when this happens to me and also when it happens to other authors. You stop writing out of the joy of writing and start putting up whatever just because people are expecting it. Now I am into the Christmas story and it is a nice respite. Just repeat to yourself, I will not be forgotten if I don't post today. It has been 2 months between posting stories for me, and people still go to my stories and find enjoyment.
There is also a responsibility of readers and commentators on stories.
1. Let the author write the story the way they want to. Unless it is asked for, don't start dictating where you want the story to go. If you want a story to go a certain way, write your own.
2. Be kind in your criticism. There is a right way and a wrong way. Telling someone they have the spelling ability of a prepubescent chimp is not cool. Also, I notice this from time to time, don't complain because you don't like the genre. If D and D stories aren't your take, don't tell an author to quit writing them.
I hope this is taken the way it is meant. I really enjoy reading stories here when I have the time and like that I have an avenue to share my stories as well. By the way, A Patch of Christmas might be a rare nugget from me and it wouldn't hurt those who haven't to read it. It is quite the light and airy piece. I know it isn't often expected of me, but it is really sweet and loaded with truths. Just ask anyone I paid to say just those words.
Comments
K.T. I 4 1
have enjoyed your stories. I find nothing to criticize.
May Your Light Forever Shine
I always
I always leave the following line (or something very similiar) at the end of my stories:
This tells potential reviewers that I'm open to criticism, but expect any possible criticism to be respectful. There's no reason to destroy someone's self-esteem over a story. Especially since so many of us here have a pretty fragile self-esteem to begin with.
Have delightfully devious day,
Constructive Criticism
Very well said Little Katie. There is a big difference between Constructive Criticism and negative comments.
One of the things I like about this site and another I visit is that Constructive Criticism is given. When I post a story I do not want to just get positive comments, and I do not want to be attacked. I do however want to improve as a writer. If I do not hear what people truly believe about my writing, how can I grow and improve?
I worry at times when I see constructive criticism attacked on this site as negative comments when they are not. It has caused me to be very reluctant to post constructive criticism comments. I believe the high quality stories we get posted here will slowly decrease if only positive "I love it" comments are allowed to be posted. Yes negative comments like those described by Katie here should not be posted, but Constructive Criticism should be allowed and encouraged.
As a writer, when I get true constructive criticism it is hard to take for a variety of reasons depending on what was said. As writers our stories are our little babies. Being told it is not perfect or someone doesn't like a part because you do a certain thing in your writing, goes write to your heart. Some times the concerns readers have for a story are because they are posting after each chapter and not at the end of the story. They don't know what is coming, and a writers attempt to lead the readers down a path can be interpreted wrong. Some times the problem with a writing style is a valid point, but something the author intentionally decides to leave alone for it is the style the author has chosen or it works for the audience the author has chosen.
Personally I love Sweet and Sentimental stories, and I do not like dark ones. So, I absolutely love SOME of K.T. Leone's stories, but there are others that are not for me. I am not going to tear those stories apart just because I do not like darker stories. I may state it is not for me but it is still a good story. That is not a negative on the story, but it just tells what my preference is.
Please everyone. Keep Writing. Keep Reading. Keep Commenting positive and constructive criticism. Keep Smiling and don't forget, a writer shares their soul with the world.
Keep Smiling, Keep Writing
Teek
Constructive Criticism
...in pointing out faults within a story, are by necessity requested to be done by pm's only. Done openly, authors feel they are being embarrassed and attacked. Comments are meant to be used to express your opinions about the story plot and its characters.
Conduct constructive criticism in the pm's as long as you are not pushy or tearing an author down. And please consider the author when writing a criticism and be careful of word choice when phrasing. How you say something is just as important as what you want to say. Being too heavy handed will get negative results. Going gently and offering to help will probably get positive results.
It all has to do with treating others nicely so that they can treat you nicely as well.
Courtesy and niceness ^^
Sephrena
This is off-topic, but...
That's a really cool drawing. Where do you get those, if I may ask?
Melanie
Here is my secret stash
Anime Girls You need to use firefox browser, have the adblock plus extension, and when you click similar sizes when you find an image you like, look for the largest size and ensure the site isn't located in russia, romania, middle east, or china. Trojans seem to be embedded in anime pics from those countries. They pounded my AV shield. So i carefully pic japanese and american ones and save the pics from those links.
Sephrena
How I offer constructive criticism
If I want to help an author by offering suggestions on how to improve themselves, I prefer to do it in a PM. That way it can be an exchange between the author and me and not inspire other to jump on the "yeah, you screwed up" bandwagon. I never point out an error without offering some solution.
The following is something I sent an author in a PM:
[I've run into a typo that made me chuckle. You said the hair was "quaffed." Vocabulary dot com defines quaff as:
to swallow hurriedly or greedily or in one draught
Synonyms:
gulp, swig
Type of:
drink, imbibe
take in liquids
n a hearty draft
Type of:
draft, draught, potation, tipple
I think you meant "coiffed." defined as:
the arrangement of the hair (especially a woman's hair)
Synonyms:
coiffure, hairdo, hair style, hairstyle
Good story so far though. I like the set up. It's so hard to come up with an original set up for a young man to enter the world of femininity when he hasn't already had the inclination. I look forward to finishing it.]
As you can see, I kept it lighthearted and offered praise for the story, which was quite well written aside from the one typo. The response was: "Thanks for the catch."
Another time, A new author had a good idea for a story and but lacked the skill to make it an enjoyable read. I took time to rework a few paragraphs so that the storyline flowed better and offered it privately as instruction.
In both cases there was an exchange with the authors and it my criticism was well accepted. I would never put something like that in the open comments and open the author to public embarrassment.
Hugs
Patricia
Happiness is being all dressed up and HAVING some place to go.
Semper in femineo gerunt
Ich bin eine Mann
Read Throughs
You only read it like 4 or 5 times????
Geeeez Katie, we're going to do well together. I've a short story I'm trying to finish up so I can post it, I have a Comdex chapter waiting for the editor, after which I'll post that (and Yes, I'll go through it again a couple of times when it comes back). I think I think I go through a story about a bizillion times (yes, that's a word, I made it up(or copied it???)!) before I post it.
Seriously, I've been through it at least a dozen times. I thought everyone was like me. OCD in their writing.
Most of the time (there have been rare exceptions) I go through them again and again.
Like I said Katie, we're going to do well together :)
Beth
You don't know how eagerly I'm waiting
I really can't wait for you to be here. I hope you realize that. We can edit each others work and I might make Friday night mandatory pillow fight night. The only caveat is we have to wear see thru nighties and put it on webcam, the residual income alone can pay for a pool and a live in houseboy. LOL.
Katie Leone (Katie-Leone.com)
Writing is what you do when you put pen to paper, being an author is what you do when you bring words to life