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There are two legal maters that I am dealing with right now; one is a case against me and one is a case against people who stole from me. I got updates on both and figured I would share them. As you can gather, with all the stress I am under, I really haven't had the mental energy to continue writing and I apologize for that. I will continue the cure as soon as possible, but I wouldn't be able to tell you when.
I talked to the criminal lawyer today, the detective had a disposition yesterday on the cases of the email and admitted that she didn't know whether or not the emails listed under my facebook account were accurate or active. That should bode well for me, since the hotmail accounts don't exist or if they do, they aren't mine. I don't know the status of them considering BC an email account because the lawyer had a scheduled meeting and things were cut short. He will call me later in the week. Hopefully we can wrap this up soon.
Second... on the case where people stole from me. I haven't heard from that detective, but today the person who did the stealing called me and said the police were looking for him at his job and wondered if I knew why. He then claimed they were FEDS because they came in a black van. I suppose they could be feds, he did commit wire fraud by using the routing number and all from a stolen check to pay his phone bill. After I told him I didn't know why the cops were looking for him, he said "if this has something to do with you, I will end you." I am wondering, are cell phone calls saved anywhere? Can I call AT&T and get a copy of what he said?
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Not good
Phone records are kept, as in phone numbers dialed and duration of the call. Obviously, the content of the phone conversation is not kept by the phone company.
Kendra Manderscheid
(One step at a time is working)
Phone calls
I very much doubt telecoms companies routinely record conversations unless required to do so as part of an anti-terror investigation; however they probably keep records of the originating and destination telephone numbers, call length, and in the case of cell phone calls, possibly even which cell(s) the call was made from.
It wouldn't hurt to write down their number and the call start and end time yourself - that way, if you're threatened again (through any medium) you've got your own personal log you can produce and wave in front of the police.
On the issue of BCTS and email, I wouldn't have thought that legally there was any difference between here and any other online site with email-validated user accounts (e.g. social media, forums). It may be the case that someone reported to them you were using this site and someone interpreted it as email without having the common sense to double check - something that sounds plausible given they also mentioned what is presumably a valid email address that you neither own nor have used (again, a quick check with the email provider should have revealed some information - email providers will record the IP address of connections to their mail server, so using GeoIP tools they should have a rough idea of where in the world the connection originated (if in a different part of the country, you could easily argue the unfeasibility of legging it half way across the country on a daily basis just to check an email account!)
As the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only left-handers are in their right mind!
I'm not paranoid am I?
You're presuming that Home Land Security in one of its non-public personas aren't monitoring if not recording every conversation.
All those non-existent rooms in the Telco switching offices aren't there for no reason.
Of course it's illegal to admit their existance.
Michelle B
That call
should be reported to that detective. Too bad there's not an easy way of recording it.
hugs.
Grover
Katie's legal problems
I'm sorry they're hassling you over Facebook and your account here. I hope you can get that overturned or whatever.
As for the other, while I'm no legal expert, you definitely need to tell your lawyer and whatever police you deal with on the theft about this call and his threat. Even if you can't prove he said it in court, there needs to be an official statement from you that he called and threatened you, especially if (God forbid) he actually does try violence against you (or worse, succeeds). Plus, knowing about the threat may make the cops more careful how they handle him and watchful for anything he may try.
Phones
Records are kept, but are not generally court admissiable as indicitive of nuisence or threatening calls unless they are specifically marked at the time of the call. These days I think it's the receiver entering a code on the phone but when I was doing it they'd give you a phone with an extra button to push (May vary around different states and countries but the legal side should base on the same precedents and ideals so should be similar)
If you are really worried, report it to the detective doing the investigation, and ask your service provider about it.
Do NOT speak with him, call the detective
Do not speak with this guy. Hang up or do not answer. Call the detective and advise him of the threat and report the conversation. Call ASAP.
How does he know the investigator was in a black van? He is playing mind games with you. be careful.
Rami
RAMI
answer to Rami
I wouldn't have talked to him, the number that came up on my cell phone didn't come up as him. In fact the area code was different from his old number. I couldn't even tell you if he called from his own phone or a pay phone.
About violence against me... lucky enough I'm a large enough mammal not to worry about things like that and with my knowledge of wrestling, I know how to neutralize people without injuring. I only use my knowledge for self defense.
Katie Leone (Katie-Leone.com)
Writing is what you do when you put pen to paper, being an author is what you do when you bring words to life
Suggestions
Best bet is not to answer if you don't recognize a number. Let him leave a recorded voice for you to play for the detective. Do this at home or on cell. I NEVER answer an unknown number and, right now, do not have anyone interested in hurting this broken down old body of mine.
Second thing is a reminder. I believe you've said before that you're in Florida. We have a law on the books as of, I think, two years ago that says you can use deadly force to protect yourself from deadly force. Basically, you can use the equal of the force used against you to defend yourself. Don't worry about neutralizing people without injuring if he's trying to injure you. The vast majority of people that use force to injure or kill do not learn unless they find their target is willing to injure or kill in self-defense (I know this from reality). Anyone that tried to hurt me would find out, the hard way, that I have a well-trained broken down old body. Some fools actually have found out.
Take care of yourself first. Never worry about injuring any low-life willing to attack you.
Hugs,
Erica
Harassing calls
Do like I do. If the number is not known to you, and you have not prearranged to be waiting for call at a certain time, do not answer it. Let it go to voicemail. While it is unlikely that somebody would be dumb enough to leave a threat on voicemail, you never know. And investigate your cellphone, many can be easily set to record a conversation. Said recording may or may not be admissible in court in your state, but you'll still have something to prove your story. If you have a landline phone, a cheap recorder with an aux. input and an induction coil from Radio Shack will give you an easy way to record those calls.
"Life is not measured by the breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.”
George Carlin
Legal Update
Wonder if the two cases are related in some nefarious way
May Your Light Forever Shine
answer to Stanman
yes they are related. The case against me was from a bogus claim by this person so they could get my computer out of the house. I suppose they figured without a computer I couldn't keep track of my banking online. Lucky I caught it in a few days and my account wasn't completely drained.
Katie Leone (Katie-Leone.com)
Writing is what you do when you put pen to paper, being an author is what you do when you bring words to life
Get an answering machine
Did he call on your landline or your mobile phone?
If he called your landline then it sounds like its time for you to get an answering machine and screen all of your calls. If he makes threats on an answering machine then you have a record that you can give to the police. I do this. I listen to who talks on the answering machine and decide whether to pick up or not pick up. My friends know why Im doing it so they just say hi and identify themselves to the machine and wait for me to pick up the phone.
Stay safe.
BB
try NSA
The NSA does record most calls but I bet FDLE has been recording your calls since the latest charges came out.
Hugs,
Jenna From FL
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