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It was a while back that I posted few chapters to a story. I stopped writing it because I was getting bogged down and when I reread the 3rd chapter, I felt like my grocery list was more exciting.
I recently started a new story, and found myself in the same spot. After about 6000 words, I start rambling and it gets REALLY boring. Is this a common problem for other amateur writers? I have so many dead beginnings, and some of them I think are pretty well written. But....for the ones I've made it out far enough to start getting interesting, I seem to plunge into the land of the dull.
I think one of my problems is that I want to capture the day-to-day experiences of the newly transformed woman. In both stories, the change is completely voluntary, and the conflict is largely external to the change itself. So, what I was trying to do was capture her every experience as she explored the world in her new, idealized form. However, I think what I ended up doing was rattling off so many details that it was a chore to write, much less read.
I'm still not convinced what I want to achieve can't be accomplished, but I do think I currently lack the skills to do it! :O Nonetheless, I think I'm going to switch to something a little less personal, and mostly just silly fun...and see if I can bring some life back to that, until I have some sort of inspiration to work on one of these other ones.
Does anyone have any suggestions for how a newbie writer can overcome these sorts of mundane challenges, so that they can actually complete something?
mig
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A few things come to mind.
First, get a friend/beta-reader/editor/mentor. I found mine in several places. Some from begging, some (I think) took pity on me, and some were friends (& still are, I like to think). Ask them to read one of your starts, and make suggestions. Ask them to tell you what they like, what they didn't like, and what ever... Take their comments and look at what you wrote, and see if they make sense and think about trying a re-write taking the comments into consideration. Don't be afraid to throw away big chunks or even the whole thing and start over...
Next, something you can consider on your own. Capturing day-to-day experiences can quickly get very tedious. Think about your own days. How much is something you'd want to read about? (or even hear about?). Here's an example. Say your character goes shopping for a gown. And she tries on twenty different gowns. If you describe EACH gown, it is likely to get tedious. If, on the other hand, you describe the first (one she doesn't pick) and the experience of putting it on and how scratchy or whatever it is... That's enough. You can then cover the next 19 VERY quickly (fast forward). You might describe one "silly" dress, that her friend pulled - just to help flesh her personality and maybe the friend. And, you might describe recognizing when she tries on "the one" that is just right... And describe why. But more, you'll find most people will get bored by it. You've still described the shopping, but it's not so tedious. It's possible to go into more, but if you're not REALLY good, it'll quickly sound like reading a phone book. Yes, Orson Wells could do that, and make it sound interesting. But, not many others could manage the feat.
Good Luck, and have fun writing.
Annette
Good Writing
. . .is based on change and conflict.
Annette's comments are dead on.
Angela Rasch (Jill M I)
Angela Rasch (Jill M I)
Just a couple of thoughts.
First and foremost...WRITE WHAT YOU KNOW.
Leave somethings to the readers imaginations. I know I get much more involved in reading a story, when not everything is explained by the author. Particularly in the case of fictitious technology. It is important to let the readers use their imaginations, in some cases.
Whether or not YOU think what you've written is good, DO find some Beta readers. They can steer you in the right directions when you might have strayed. Speaking for myself, I have found them invaluable.
Plot out your work. Have a beginning, a middle and an ending in mind before you even put word one in your WORD (or whatever) program. This is something I haven't done much of, and as a result, I have several stories that have no end in sight. VERY unsatisfying for an author and for readers in general.
Never give up! The audience in this genre is SO wide and varied, that there's room for everyones fantasies/ideas.
WRITE, WRITE, WRITE! The more you write, the better you will get at it. I wish you the very best with your writings. I'll be watching and waiting to see your work.
Hugs 'n love,
Catherine Linda Michel
As a T-woman, I do have a Y chromosome... it's just in cursive, pink script.
Not Finishing what you Started
I think that is a very common problem for writer, many ideas will not withstand the actual test of being written. Flaws begin to appear as you begin to put it on paper or on the screen. Personally, I have numerous starts that never went anywhere.
My advice is to work on a containable short story, not a novel with many chapters, that has a specific end, a limited number of characters to develop, and a single point of conflict to be resolved.
neverending stories ...
I, too, find it easier to start a story than to end one. I've got megabytes of stuff, running back twenty years, and some of it is the sort of stuff that becomes ... tedious.
It's not always necessary to have an end in mind, if you have a really burning idea that totally *works* as a story start. But ... those are the sort to put aside until, re-reading them some time later, you realize "ah, and it ends like this!" Otherwise ... a really good way to avoid falling into the Pit of Useless Droning Inconsequential Details is to know how it's going to end. At that point ... you can cut the stuff that doesn't matter, and doesn't drive the story forward.
If you don't know where the story is going (correction: if *I* don't know where a story-start I've frantically scribbled is going), then it will only be purest luck if it ends up *anywhere*, rather than wandering all over the landscape, looking in the closets and dressers, examining an old photo album or two, maybe learning a hobby, and getting bored with it, signing up for night courses, and finally leaving home to be lost at sea or become vice president and never be heard from again. :-)
Seriously, if your story is wandering, ask: where is it going? That tends to clarify things (and that's true even if you have an extended-episode serial, in which case every end might be a beginning, but there's always *an* end in mind).
Amy!
Well, it's not the ending
Well, it's not the ending that I'm having trouble with. I do have a basic outline (in my head) for where both stories are going. It's the execution that is killing me (pun intended:P )
Write the ending
If you get stuck in the middle, go to the end and write it. You may find it clears your mind as to what you need to do with the middle.
Also, sometimes I discover, like with Sam I Am and Sledgehammer and Shocking Pink that the story ended a heck of a lot sooner than I expected but it did have an ending. Learn to recognize endings.
All that said, I probably have fifty to two hundred unfinished stories on my various computers. Sometimes I just write enough of a story idea out that I will be able to find and finish it "some day". :)
Hugs,
Erin
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
This is exactly what I
This is exactly what I needed! Anette and Catherine, I think I have been micromanaging my own character's lives! So, maybe it's time to back off a little bit and let them have a bit more privacy!
I really do wish I could write a short story, but everything I start ends up growing and growing! The one story that could be considered to be finished is over 33,000 words-and the ending was terribly rushed. I will keep that in mind, though. I've always thought that if I could just find a nice, short thing to write about, it would make it easier to move forward on.
As for beta-readers....I would love to find someone to give me some feedback, if anyone is interested:)
mig
Micromanaging your characters
It's tricky, I know, just how much detail to put in and how much to leave out. I've spent thousands of words describing a single day's events in "A Winter's Tale", but later on I've tossed aside several weeks in a few sentences. The trick is finding out how to shift gears when you need to.
My big problem, on the other hand, is just about the opposite to yours: my characters occasionally start to take control and write the story themselves! I'll write something in, for the atmosphere, perhaps, and then ten pages later what I wrote suddenly becomes important and I'll think: how did I know they needed to do that?
Whatever, if it works, I'll let it do whatever it needs to. If necessary I can go back and edit out the bits that didn't seem to lead anywhere useful.
Do keep writing. Some people are comfortable writing short pieces, some need to put a lot more down. But the more you write, the better you'll get at it.
Penny
Something else to consider
It's also possible that part of the reason it starts to sound like you're losing focus is that you may be trying force yourself to follow a preplanned outline. Sometimes the characters want to go somewhere else, and its often a good idea to let them. The problem being, outlines and plot plans are often logically through out... and people, even the most methodical ones, are rarely logical... and life, never. Personalities are complex structures with all sorts of emotional baggage that causes us to react in unexpected ways. Let your characters react in their own ways... even if this means fun ideas that you planned out never get used, so be it. The fact that your characters are alive and moving on their own will more than make up for it.
But otherwise, I'm in agreement with Anette and Catherine... as I was just recommending to another writer on the Whateley forums recently, the only things that should ever appear in your writing are those things that are necessary for the progression of your plot/story. Vivid, full sensory descriptions and lyrical phrasing belong in your Poetry Anthology, but most of the time; they just bog down your prose.
>> Lyrical phrasing
It depends on who you ask. Books written by and for women are almost guaranteed to contain lots of prose in comparison to dialogue. Most women love words, and value the people who use them well, to my mind the human equivalent of female songbirds, who are impressed by musical virtuosity on the part of their suitors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_writing_in_English
http://home.infionline.net/~ddisse/
This is, of course, a controversial notion, and one can find plenty of counter-examples.
Here, for example, is Andre Dubus III's House of Sand and Fog, an Oprah Book Club selection, so it obviously appeals to women, despite having been written by a man:
Andre Dubus - House of Sand and Fog
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/House-of-Sand-and-Fog/Andre...
http://www.amazon.com/House-Sand-Oprahs-Vintage-Contemporari...
One of the few things I really like about amazon.com is that it's very easy to sample a large variety of writing styles at no particular cost using their "Look Inside" feature.
Barnes and Noble uses a similar feature, but they call it "See Inside." To see the actual text, you have to set up a B&N user id, but they tend to show many more readable pages than amazon do, once this is done.
It pays to look in both places, and often on author websites if one has a particular favourite, as the text on offer in any particular location may differ from another.
Judith Freeman is an award-winning author of many books:
http://www.judithfreeman.net/about.html
Judith Freeman - Set for Life
http://www.amazon.com/Set-Life-Freeman-Judith/dp/0393335100/...
Judith Freeman - Red Water
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Red-Water/Judith-Freeman/e/...
http://www.amazon.com/Red-Water-Novel-Judith-Freeman/dp/0385...
Judith McNaught is a New York Times Bestselling Author who specialises in romance novels:
http://www.judithmcnaught.com/
Judith McNaught - Until You
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Until-You/Judith-McNaught/e...
http://www.amazon.com/Until-You-Judith-McNaught/dp/067188060...
Judith McNaught - Every Breath You Take
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Every-Breath-You-Take/Judit...
http://www.amazon.com/Every-Breath-You-Take-Novel/dp/0345498...
Jennifer Weiner - Best Friends Forever
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Best-Friends-Forever/Jennif...
Jennifer Weiner - Good in Bed
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Good-in-Bed/Jennifer-Weiner...
http://www.amazon.com/Good-Bed-Jennifer-Weiner/dp/0743418174...
Here's a short story by that most indefatigable proponent of a masculine (and muscular) literature:
Ernest Hemingway - Hills Like White Elephants
http://www.moonstar.com/~acpjr/Blackboard/Common/Stories/Whi...
Notice the fact that he uses lots of dialogue and is rather sparing of any description that might possibly be described as "lyrical."
Cheers,
Puddin'
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Cheers,
Puddin'
A tender heart is an asset to an editor: it helps us be ruthless in a tactful way.
--- The Chicago Manual of Style
Writing
Writing a story is hard, or as Gene Fowler once ironically said, "Writing is easy: All you do is sit staring at a blank sheet of paper until drops of blood form on your forehead."
The first thing to do is to start writing without worrying about what it means, or whether it's a good story, just imagining your characters in situations, writing what they say to each other, what the place looks like, how they feel about each other, what they're wearing, and anything else you can think of.
Make sure that whatever technology you use to write is comfortable for you. Unless you're a wonderful touch typist, many find that writing by hand, the way Shakespeare did it, is easiest. I used to use a fountain pen and really liked it, as (for me) there's nothing that flows quite so easily as a good-quality pen.
Once you have a *lot* of words, inspect them. Throw away anything that doesn't make a story in your head, shuffle things around if necessary, imagine what's missing and make it, and decide what the point of the story is. Put that part last.
Writers write *lots* more than is ever published, just as film directors have lots of footage that doesn't make it to the final film. The trick is to be willing to toss buckets of your words on the cutting room floor.
Cheers,
Puddin'
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I write one page of masterpiece to ninety one pages
of shit. I try to put the shit in the wastebasket.
--- Ernest Hemingway
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Cheers,
Puddin'
A tender heart is an asset to an editor: it helps us be ruthless in a tactful way.
--- The Chicago Manual of Style
Writing is hard
First, have a story to tell. There's nothing worse than staring at a monitor waiting for inspiration. Beginning a story without having an end in mind is generally worse than useless because it will only lock you into a course that may lead nowhere. Some people say that the act of writing gives them inspiration -- well, all I can say is that it doesn't work for everyone. ;)
Want inspiration? Read a lot, and while you're reading, try to figure out what makes it work.
Attempting to boil down all the discussions of plots and story lines, I think that stories are about creating a certain type of emotional satisfaction. We feel good when the protagonist gains revenge on the person who did him wrong. We enjoy the culmination of a love story, the adventure in an epic swashbuckling tale, the sense of accomplishment after overcoming overwhelming odds, the quiet satisfaction when one grows to be the one she is destined to be, the melancholy sweetness of growing up, and so forth. In that sense, a story is simple, really: Start a story, or quickly advance a story to where the main character(s) has a "situation," build upon that situation, always working towards that ending where you can leave the reader with that sense of maximum satisfaction, then end it.
These are standard, time-honored principles that work anywhere.
The keys are:
Have a good story to tell.
There's no way to rescue a boring story.
Start the story well, grabbing the interest of the reader.
There are any number of ways to do this, but usually it means jumping in at a critical point for the protagonist (or close to it).
Build towards the climax, staying on course.
Staying on course is very important. Characters can lead you all over the place, and sometimes that can contribute to the story, but if they don't keep the story moving in the right direction, than it's best to rein them in. The Jarvis method teaches that the author should have a keyword or two in mind when writing. If it's a revenge story, then it is probably "revenge." Since "revenge" has nothing to do with love or global warming, leading the main character down those roads, no matter how interesting they might be, would be a really bad idea. Another way to look at is to determine what the theme of a story is, what you're trying to "prove," then prove it. If you're trying to "prove" that "love conquers all," for instance, then steer the story towards that end.
Make sure there's real tension. There's nothing more boring than a protagonist who's led by the nose to the conclusion, or a protagonist who never has to make meaningful decisions, who's basically along for the ride. Crying and angst do not necessarily equal tension.
Make sure the story is smooth without annoying bumps that jar the reader. These bumps can range from story defects like characters that don't act logically or consistently, to bad grammar, boring dialog, too much useless information, and pretentiousness or preaching.
Know when to end a story. Get to that point of maximum satisfaction, then terminate on a high note.
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I have to say that while this works fine for all stories, TG stories are a little different. It's usually pretty hard to interest a mainstream audience in the feel of silk against the skin. In the mainstream world, the sight of a guy wearing a dress generally makes one look askance or shrug their shoulders. The vast majority don't want to be a person of the other sex and so can't understand the need for it. Stories that are, let's face it, thinly disguised man-hatred or bimbo worship, wouldn't be too popular on CBS or FOX. MtF transformations are more mainstream than anything else, but allow the protagonist to enjoy it too much and the Nielson ratings tank.
Enter the TG story, where the usual standards don't necessarily apply. While the standard rules of fiction will win a broad audience, and are always a good idea, there are some special interest stories that are darn hard to tell using standard mainstream tension, like CD stories. Fortunately, this is the right place for TG stories, and there's nothing wrong with appealing to a limited, special interest audience. So, use what you can of the basic rules, but don't be a prisoner to them. There are plenty of people here who will enjoy what you write if you put forth an honest effort. :)
Aardvark
"Happiness is when what you think, what you say, and what you do are in harmony."
Mahatma Gandhi
"Happiness is when what you think, what you say, and what you do are in harmony."
Mahatma Gandhi
>> the feel of silk against the skin...
Actually, I think the Regency and other women's romance genres have been doing it successfully for quite some time now. Half the fun of them, at least for modern women, is the loving descriptions of a style of ultra-feminine dress now seen only in fancy-dress costume parties, a select few weddings, and romance novels.
Cheers,
Puddin'
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Cheers,
Puddin'
A tender heart is an asset to an editor: it helps us be ruthless in a tactful way.
--- The Chicago Manual of Style