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I think there is room for discussion here, and it may not have anything to do with the censorship.
Portia
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/16/dossier-andrej-peji...
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Model
He could do with a bit more food - too much bone showing
Karen
Topless Model Magazine Cover Censored
Such stupidity!
May Your Light Forever Shine
May Your Light Forever Shine
double standards
Oh my! A topless androgenous male! Definitely censor that image! It has no place amongst on the magazine rack next to the far, far more respectable women in swimsuits or tight clothes and the shirtless well muscled men of decent periodicals! *rolls eyes* I think B&N might have some problems denying prejudice motivated them unless they take a similar line on all male toplessness.
"Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere." - Carl Sagan
"Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it."
Current poll results
Quick Poll
Should this cover be censored?
YES! Too racy for the magazine rack. 41.16%
NO! It's a shirtless guy. Big deal. 58.84%
Makes you wonder...
Cross-gender idiocy
So... if someone *looks* like a stereotype (the technical definition of woman *is* someone with curlers in their hair... right?) then we must be protected from their nipples?
Because, um...
Why?
This is stupid in so many ways I can't begin to unravel them.
:-(
Michelle
Contraian View
RAMI
I am sure that my view will be different then most others and for this site is quite contrarian.
Perhaps the decision to cover the cover up has more to do with, he looks like he is climaxing then anything else.
Using the Huffington Post, as a source for votes to tell about an issue is not really valid. They do not even provide the number of votes.
Also, this is a private company, they can do as they please, if they think that there customers would be offended. They have not pulled. In reality, more people will see this cover on line, then would have bought the magazine.
I have never even heard of this magazine before. I wonder how many members of the BCTS family have heard of this magazine, let alone read it before this so called Censorship scandle. The same applies to the model.
Rami
RAMI
Climaxes are no excuse
Seriously, looked at the covers of any romance novels lately? {{:D
A bookstore can do what they want, within the bounds of their contracts with publishers. I have vaguely heard of the magazine, the model has been featured here in other blogs.
You're right though, the magazine will get their money's worth because of the censorship. And maybe Andre will get his Victoria's Secret contract that he's been wanting. :)
Hugs,
Erin
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
Sex sells magazines. To
Sex sells magazines. To have an androgenous model on the cover of the mag is proof that there are large numbers of folks who are either attracted or offended by the androgeny of the model, who by the way has been in the fasion news fpr a year or so now, along with another from Italy. These things go in cycles, as over the years TS and other androgenous models have been featured as a flash in the pan celebs, then they are gone. Remember Jaye Davidson who was in Crying Game and Stargate?
CaroL
CaroL
Ah yes...andogyny...
...it reminds me of the Esquire cover Vanity Fair cover with a very gorgeous Cindy Crawford leaning over K D Lang who was sitting in a barber chair with a face full of shaving cream. OH my God! What could than mean???? Outraged folks screaming to have it taken off the shelf. Meanwhile the same angry 'readers' say nothing of the simultaneous genocide of fellow humans in Rhwanda. The picture is provocative because it's SUPPOSED to be. OH...is that a boy or a girl? Or a boy AND a girl. Like the old Far Side cartoon of the guy in hell standing in front of two doors...Damned if you Do and Damned if you Don't and the Devil says, "Come on, make up your mind," only here, it's Damned if you Are and Damned if You STILL are!" With that 'do,' the model almost looks like a young Georgette Washington way before she became President in that alternate universe we all have kicking around in our heads!
Dio vi benedica tutti
Con grande amore e di affetto
Andrea Lena
Love, Andrea Lena
marketing tool
i wonder how many copies are sold just because someone wants to know why it's censored...
if it wasn't censored, how many would have noticed it?
and:
would this discussion even exist?
Meanwhile in the UK...
A well-known newspaper, frequently available from stands placed at ankle level, publishes topless photographs of females six days a week on the page immediately behind the front. So just by lifting up the front page, a two year old could see a colour photographic representation of human flesh.
I can't help but wonder if some magazines would censor photographs of Michaelangelo's David (even a chest-up view) or the Venus de Milo because they are three dimensional representations of naked human flesh...
There are 10 kinds of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who don't...
As the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only left-handers are in their right mind!
A larger context...
He's actually quite famous, if one reads fashion magazines from time to time, purely for the editorials of course. And he's not just an androgynous male model, he's a fashion model of women's designer clothing, a bit of Yaoi kink for the ladies, who love such things.
These show him on the runway in one of Jean Paul Gaultier's wedding dresses during Paris Fashion Week.
I strongly suspect that there are plenty of people in "Middle America" and the "Middle East" who are offended by his "lifestyle," and doubtless his flat male breasts have been "contaminated" with "femininity" by his dainty working outfits, so "naturally" the powers that be would want them modestly covered.
Cheers,
Puddin'
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Cheers,
Puddin'
A tender heart is an asset to an editor: it helps us be ruthless in a tactful way.
--- The Chicago Manual of Style
His dress is just like mine !!!!
How did he do that? I am sure it was locked in the closet !
snark snark.
Gwendolyn
Who said that?
In my game, rumours are alays circulating that this or that is going to be banned, or has been reclassified as a carcinogen, or whatever...
When people ask about these on our discussion forum, the stock response is some combination of:
Who says?
Ask for the references to the causative data (for us the legislation)
Who is your source's source?
Were they asked for references to the causative data?
Have you traced this back to the original source?
Or concisely HYCTCTIS (Have you challenged this c--p to its source?)
The source is almost always a lowly, under-trained (and often under-educated) employeee, who has miss-understood and/or miss-interpreted the rules, or acted on a (totally unsupported) gut feeling.
Interpreting the 'update' on the Huff Post this sounds like an employee at one magazine distributor assuming that the 'chains wouldn't like it'. B&N have said "not us" (and I sense an unspoken WDGAFF if it helps the Magazine sell.)
And the poll is now very skewed: only one-third in favour of the censorship.
Triumph of Androgyny
Andrej is so successful at being womanly that he's being treated as a woman would, his magazine picture is being censored.
Not actually that big of a deal in my view, now that I think more of it. It's sort of silly to bag a mag just because of a little nudity on the cover, anyway.
Hugs,
Erin
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.