Texas May Strip Away Transgender Marriage Rights

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AUSTIN, Texas – Two years after Texas became one of the last states to allow transgendered people to use proof of their sex change to get a marriage license, Republican lawmakers are trying to roll back the clock.

Advocates for the transgendered say a proposal to bar transgendered people from getting married smacks of discrimination and would put their legally granted marriages in danger of being nullified if challenged in court.

One of the Republican sponsors of the legislation said he's simply trying to clean up the 2009 law in a state that bans same-sex marriage under the constitution.

"The Texas Constitution," Sen. Tommy Williams said, "clearly defines marriage between one man and one woman."

The legislation by Williams, of Houston, and Rep. Lois Kolkhorst, of Brenham, would prohibit county and district clerks from using a court order recognizing a sex change as documentation to get married, effectively requiring the state to recognize a 1999 state appeals court decision that said in cases of marriage, gender is assigned at birth and sticks with a person throughout their life even if they have a sex change.

Most states allow transgendered people to get married using a court order that also allows them to change their driver's license, experts said. Some advocates for the transgendered say the Texas proposal would not only prevent future transgendered marriages but also open up the possibility that any current marriage could be nullified.

"It appears the goal is to try to enshrine a really horrifying ruling and making it law in the state of Texas," said John Nechman, a Houston attorney whose law firm does work for the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered community.

Gov. Rick Perry's spokesman Mark Miner said the governor never intended to allow transgendered people to get married. He said the three-word sex change provision was sneaked through on a larger piece of legislation Perry signed two years ago regarding marriage licensing rules for county and district clerks. Perry, a Republican, supports efforts to "clarify the unintended consequences" of that law, Miner said.

"The governor has always believed and advocated that marriage is between a man and a woman," Miner said.
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Williams said he understands that some people's gender cannot easily be determined when they are born and they later have an operation that could change the originally assigned gender.

"It is an emotional issue," Williams said. "I can appreciate that."

But when asked about claims of discrimination, Williams insisted his goal is to simplify marriage licensing for clerks who are trying to balance the 2009 law with the 1999 Texas appeals court ruling.

"They shouldn't have to resolve these issues," Williams said. "We have confused them."

Williams' legislation has cleared a committee vote and now awaits approval by the full Senate, which is predominantly Republican. The version in the GOP-dominated House has not yet been given a hearing.

Some advocates for the transgendered say that even if the legislation is passed, transgendered people could still get marriage licenses using other state and federally-issued documents such as a drivers' license or passport. But without the weight of a court order officially recognizing their gender reassignment, they worry any legal challenge, such as a divorce or estate dispute, would nullify the marriage.

"We want to be recognized as people. We want to have the same rights as all of you," Lisa Scheps of the Transgender Education Network of Texas said at a March hearing on Williams' bill. No one testified in favor of the legislation.

Kolkhorst, who authored the 2009 law that allowed the sex change documentation to be used in getting marriage licenses, did not respond to messages left at her office seeking comment on why she now wants to take it out.

The 2009 law originally was filed without the sex change document provision, but House records show Kolkhorst put it in as part of a lengthy amendment in the last month of the session. The changed legislation passed the House and Senate and Perry signed it into law a month later.

"It would be terrible for Texas, now that it finally caught up with the rest of the country, to take a step back," said Shannon Minter, an attorney for the national Transgender Law and Policy Institute. He said most states allow marriages for people who have undergone sex reassignment surgery.

Nikki Araguz was at the Capitol last week to lobby against the legislation. Her husband, a volunteer firefighter, was killed in the line of duty in July and she is being sued by her dead husband's family over control of his $600,000 estate.

Araguz had a final sex change operation in October 2008, two months after they were married, and says her husband knew and supported her. His family argues the marriage should be voided because Araguz was born a man and same-sex marriage is not legal in Texas. A hearing is scheduled for May 13.

"This is crazy. I feel like this is a personal attack on me," Araguz told The Associated Press. "If this bill is passed, it essentially means women like myself who have had reconstructive surgery will not be allowed to marry their heterosexual partner."

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Conundrum

[email protected] If this passes, and I have a strong feeling that it will, the State will essentially be supporting 'Gay Marriage' i.e. The marriage of genetic females to surgically altered females? The union of genetic males to surgically enhanced ones?

The legislature obviously does not realise the implications.

Thank God, and any other higher power for their ignorance!

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...the more injustice is perpetrated by haters, the more likely the courts are to be forced to intervene.

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I'm a little confused as the

I'm a little confused as the one guy says that gender is assigned at birth and unchanging, and yet admits that there can be mistakes. However, it seems (to me) that he is saying even if there are mistakes or anything like that, they won't care and you can't do anything about it. Talk about being a bastard.
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is taking a very retrograde step, back into the C19th, when it so nearly entered the C20th. I'm surprised they aren't legislating to bring back slavery and racial segregation or are they?

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PICT0013_1_0.jpg to Federal Civil Rights legislation, the same way the Civil Rights Act Of 1964 forced the South to recognize that African Americans were entitled to the same rights as everyone else. They should make sure the Federal law trumps any bigoted piece of legislation that comes out of those States. The Federal Supreme Court needs to take the issue on and declare the laws they are trying to pass, a clear and blatant case of discrimination. I wonder how the rest of the country would like it if thousands of LGBT people quit paying taxes for the same services that Heterosexual couples have access to? There would be an even bigger hole in government coffers than there already is. Can you imagine if a class action lawsuit was filed seeking reimbursement of taxes paid for services LGBT citizens weren't allowed access to? The attorneys could say to these States"You have two choices, allow access to all services by all taxpayers or pay back millions in taxes to the people denied open access. It is called Taxation Without Representation. The same reason we went to war with England during the Revolution. All of us in the LGBT community that pay taxes should be entitled to the services we pay for. It is not a religious issue, it is a Civil issue. We buy licenses to Marry through the courthouse and not through the church, so the Religious Reich should not have a leg to stand on since the Constitution says that government and religion are separate. All the objections to this law are clearly based on religious dogma and not really a case of simplifying or clarifying it for City and County clerks. People are not fooled by who is really behind this.

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Wadda ya expect?

Another unfulfilled Obama promise. When he had his majority in both houses of Congress, he allowed Pelosi to play politics as usual instead of getting things done. Now he couldn't get it passed if his life depended on it.

"Meet the new boss - same as the old boss"

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I went outside once. The graphics weren' that great.

Speaker Pelosi got a lot of

Speaker Pelosi got a lot of good progressive legislation through the house, including many bills the President claimed to support. Over 400 of those bills died in the Senate under institutional sclerosis and the Republican's willingness to hold their breath until the country chokes to death. President Obama and Senator Reid are both more to blame for things not getting done than Speaker Pelosi was.

You have to be VERY careful

You have to be VERY careful about that.

The Constitution is very clear that States rights supersede Federal rights, except as expressly granted in the Constitution to the Federal Government.

The Feds have played fast and loose with that over the last sixty years or so, but pushing for them to take it further isn't a great idea. The Civil Rights Act was somewhat of an attachment to the 13th and 15th amendment, so it is simple to say Federal over State.

You'd be better served to attack it FROM a state level, rather than get our already overboard federal government something else to play with. Boiled down, it's better for the people to fight it locally, or move. I know of people that have moved for lesser things - I've considered it myself. In fact, there are states I refuse to even consider ever moving to BECAUSE of their stance on other topics. (I won't bring them up. It's not worth the argument)


I'll get a life when it's proven and substantiated to be better than what I'm currently experiencing.

Texas May Strip Away Transgender Marriage Rights

Considering the fact that the current President has a Transgendered Woman in the CVabinet should make them think twice. What if President Obama was to give his opinion?

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Actually, considering how

Actually, considering how well I know Texas (grew up there), if you were to mention Obama, even a number of non-Republicans in the state would get all frothy. Obama isn't well-liked, even in Houston and other big cities.

And sadly, this is par for the course in Texas. The bad thing is that I'm not sure Obama or members of either party really care all THAT much. Anyways, enough of the political bashing from me and my apologies.

Shannon Johnston

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The Secretary of Commerce...

...is Gary Locke. The articles describe Simpson as a senior technical advisor to the commerce department, not a department executive. The department site (commerce.gov) lists a dozen executives; Simpson isn't one of them. In fact, she's not mentioned on the site at all.

However, a page set up to access employees' email addresses indicates that Simpson is connected to the Bureau of Industry and Security, headed by Under Secretary Eric L Hirschhorn. In turn, the text of a presentation that Hirschhorn gave on 2/28/2011 ( https://www.bis.doc.gov/news/2011/hirschhorn_export_control_... ) to an import industry group includes the following:

"We have a plan in place to upgrade our IT systems to make them more user-friendly for exporters... One of the first steps we have taken to improve customer service through expansion of IT capabilities is to establish online registration... This move will eliminate the manual and sometimes untimely processing of more than 6500 annual requests for access to our system. Amanda Simpson, my senior technical and IT adviser, and Ken Whaley will be speaking with you tomorrow about IT developments including online registration."

Valuable, perhaps, but not exactly a "cabinet-level appointee".

Eric

Obama's waffling on DOMA

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and his wishy-washy approach to Don't Ask, Don't Tell until this year make him just another politician. He has had every opportunity since he was sworn in to deal with DOMA and he could have used an Executive Order to end Don't Ask, Don't Tell the day he was sworn in. It is my belief that the transwoman was appointed more for expediency and an appeal to his voting base than to any conviction he might hold.

Besides, because of how our government works, the President has nothing legal to add to the mix; the State of Texas would need to either change their constitution or the State Supreme court would need to get involved upon any appeal of the laws cited before any action could take place. Ultimately, the US Supreme Court might get involved, but again; the court doesn't make any ruling unless the law in question is under appeal.

Obama has an opinion like everyone else, and his opinion isn't entirely germane to the laws at hand.



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Obama and Texas

There is only one reason Obama is not like in Texas is he is Black and he is being treated by the Republicans just as they treated Bill C. when he came into Office. And If Bill C. could run again he would win with higher numbers then he did the first time. OH well I don't usually get into Political Issues as just causes decent in the ranks and can destroy good friendships. Richard

Richard

I'm going to respectfully

I'm going to respectfully disagree because most of my black friends down in Houston absolutely hate Obama. They're Democrats but refuse to vote for him if he runs again. Of course, the city of Houston does have a legitimate beef with him, concerning the placement of the space rocket bases.

But it is very disingenuous to attribute a blanket accusation of racism against a whole state, when I know of northern states (who are supposedly above that sort of thing) who feel the same way. Not trying to be nasty, but as Andrea said, Obama is a politician not a miracle.

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