Shock Horror - Jane Austen!

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Oh no - talk about shatter a girl's illusions. See the link.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11610489

Angharad.

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I heard that too...

...on "Today". But interestingly, according to that article, although her spelling, punctuation and grammar allegedly left much to be desired,

The manuscripts, she went on, "reveal Austen to be an experimental and innovative writer, constantly trying new things."
They also show her "to be even better at writing dialogue and conversation than the edited style of her published novels suggest."

 

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There are 10 kinds of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who don't...

As the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only left-handers are in their right mind!

Just shows ...

... the value of a good editor. I wonder who actually wrote the famous opening line of 'Pride and Prejudice'? You know - It is a truth universally acknowledged that a man in possession of a fortune must be in want of a wife - or words to that effect :)

Don't care who wrote them but her novels are amongst the best and funniest in English literature whilst still offering an insight into late 18th/early 19th century social mores. Far better and more readable than Dickens IMO. I was introduced to them rather late in life by my SO when we married over 40 years ago. I didn't study Eng Lit at school, just Eng Lang.

Robi

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It was reverse for me in college, I studied the literature not the language. It was technically a literary criticism course, I have a BA in it. I only read one of Austen's works, Emma, and I absolutely loved it. When we finished the professor asked us how many actually liked it and was surprised that a couple of guys in the class, including myself, actually raised their hands. I guess a lot of guys don't care for her work but I love it. I have a couple more books that I've picked up since then I haven't had a chance to read them but I will some day.

Dear Jane

I have a dog-eared copy of Pride and Prejudice on my bookshelf, awaiting my next re reading. It has a wonderful introduction by Brigid Brophy, in which she states:

…she was so utterly the master of design in fiction, and knew so cunningly how to create perspectives in her stories, down which the reader peers anxiously for the coming events, that the arrival in one of her novels of a letter from a sister who is spending a week with a cousin is a happening more explosive than most novelists can make of the arrival of a parcel containing a time bomb.

Yes, a good editor can make a great contribution to the reader’s enjoyment of a novel, but a great writer is so much more than that

Love to all
Anne G.

needs examples

Without any examples it's hard to tell how valid these complaints are. There are many great writers that depended on their editors to make their works better, but the label 'masterpiece' still belongs to the authors (think of Max Perkins' work.)

I'm sure Jane's (yes, I am on a first name basis with her in fact.) manuscripts were a mess. She didn't have the best writing tools even by the standards of her day, and clean copies of project in work were expensive and time consuming. Also, wouldn't it be hard to judge the spelling skill of someone before spelling conventions were standardized?

Poor punctuation tells us little about the nature of either a story or of a sentence. Yeah, I like them when I'm reading too, but hardly mess them when I hear some one speak, and a writer that thinks no more of commas while writing than they do while speaking doesn't lose the claim to being a great story teller, does she?

Besides punctuation conventions have changed a lot in the last two centuries. Dickens's and the Brontes' works have all been reedited for modern audiences, and enough commas have been removed for every Defoe or Swift work to have given Hemingway and Stein both a life time supply.

Maybe some editor just found a nugget of a tale in Austen's writings and rewrote them but, if so, why are there no other works by that genius? I'm not buying this at all.

[semi-obligatory Jane Austen related YouTube link]

"Becomming Jane" the Movie

I watched the DVD this afternoon. My gosh what a sad life. It was also a window into the social customs and the status of women of the time. It left me profoundly sad for her.

Gwendolyn