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I've been working on this over today and would be really grateful if some of you would mind giving it a look over and let me know whether I've done it justice. Click here

I would really value your input here.

Thanks in advance.

Hugs

Nick

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Critique

I love the sentiment expressed and the thought that went into this.

It needs a re-write. Some of the points you make are a little muddled by the wording. It could definitely be a little tighter.

My one reservation is your bit about the part-timers becoming full-timers. MtF crossdressers are an even LESS accepted "perversion" in this society than transexuals, and crossdressers are usually part-timers who never have a need to become full-timers. So, if you could somehow qualify or distinguish this, some of us might appreciate it.

Thanks.

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If a picture is worth 1000 words, this is at least part of my story.

I'm no editor

but where it might need polished for publication I whole heartedly agree with everything that you've said. It's full of heart. Given how you help out here at the site and other places it's something you've got miles and miles of.

Bailey Summers

Hey Nickie

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I know you a little I think so I don't doubt where your heart is. This is a decent primer for the uninitiated. Going beyond that which few people would wish to and even fewer understand is a whole other thing.

Good job at bare bones objective looking at a tricky subject. every little bit helps

Kristina

Understanding

I found rather a lot in there that spoke to and for me. "Tula's" marriage could have been covered.

Thanks for the comments - from Nick B

It means a lot that you have taken time out to give my blurb the once-over and leave some very useful comments.

Thanks chaps and chapesses.

Hugs,

Nick B

Jessica
I don't just look it, I'm totally grateful to all of you

Yes!

yes, you have done the article perfect justice. For transgendered and transvestite people, these messages have to reapeated time and again until those in power get to understand.

Beverly.

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Hello Nick.

Hello Nick. A good effort, though you have also fallen into the politically charged "Transgender" trap.

The following thoughts (witten by others as well as me) may better explain the way that those of us most affected by the conflation of terms for political purposes feel about the subject.

Transgender as an adjective to describe a group of heterosexual crossdressers was begun by Virginia Prince as early as the late 1960s for those of her compatriots in the Society for the Second Self (TRI-ESS), as is noted by her biographer, Dr. R.K.Dollar. The term had a very specific meaning, and was adopted to distinguish people who enjoyed dressing up as and portraying women rather than the transvestite action of dressing up in one or two items they found stimulating for quick self pleasuring and then hiding things away. The crossdressers of Tri-ess were active in "Sororities", usually with their wives encouraged participation, with a social life as their Second Selves. Notice that they consider themselves heterosexual, not gay and most do not wish to be included in the GLBT. For the most part, they are men who enjoy dressing up with friends, going out, and enjoying a hobby that seems to reflect a part of them, and they are happy with the biology they were born with.

"In the 1990s, (early 90's before the 1994 version of the DSM- CaroL)the term took on a political dimension[11] [12] as an alliance covering all who have at some point not conformed to gender norms, and the term became used to question the validity of those
norms[13] or pursue equal rights and anti-discrimination legislation, [14][15] leading to its widespread usage in the media, academic world and law.[16] The term continues to evolve." (from WIKIPEDIA)

Now, the term "transgender", has become a "dis" for large groups of people that all too often takes on "political dimensions" within all sorts of political agendas. The vagueness of the term leaves it open to being abused by people who have very diverse agendas who want to appear supportive of people who they are not actually in agreement with. It seems to me it has become a tool that is used very often by people who wish to further their own selfish aims without having to acknowledge the true concerns of people who have a need to undergo transsexual medical treatments.

It is interesting and telling that Dr. Jack Drescher, psychologist, uses the word transsexual as a noun instead of an adjective in his writings (he was one of the formers of the DSM4 revison of 1994). The obvious implication is that Gender Identity Disorder (a term for depression caused by conflict of the individual with non-accepting society and coined to further stigmatize transsexuality)is gradually used to replace and erase the existence of transsexualism in the DSM IV in 1994 which is the time frame quoted above where it says the term "transgender" "took on a political dimension".

I think the word transgender can be just as demeaning as transvestite. If gender is behavioral and cultural, the meaning of the word "transgender" doesn't go beyond that which would indicate that the term transgender lacks any kind of substance. There is also the notion of gender "transgression" which goes along with the word "transgender".

Personally, the notion of being transgressive of gender is something I find disturbing for too many reason to discuss right now. Then like a horse and carriage the word gender seems to need a companion called disorder when it is used in relation to transgender behavior especially when it is used in relation with the idea that transgender behavior is transgressive to "orderly" gender behavior or expression. The orderliness of gender behavior is defined by criteria that are socio/religious bounded. All therapy directed toward "correcting" this transgressive behavior is therefore also culturally bounded and automatically results in marginalization of many people who have the misfortune to express this behavior, and this by the people who claim to want to help them.

On what basis if not discrimination is someone who has transitioned through surgery constantly referred to as a "transgender woman" or "transgender man"?. Why is she or he not simply referred to as a woman or man? If there is a need to explain her current situation, why isn't the fact that she was born with intersex variations or a body/mind mismatch, and underwent feminizing medical treatments sufficient? Those facts are not mentioned as pertaining to her or him in ways that are merely incidental to them being a woman or man. What other women with a medical history, say treatment for breast cancer including a mastectomy or a man with his testicals cut off for testicular cancer, have their medical history splashed next to their name and face in a news article, if the article is not about breast or testicular cancer? You always get that with a woman or man who has a trans medical history, as though it is tittilating to the news reading public and the media, both written and Television, pander to that perceived interest. And always now with the term "transgender", which in effect does nothing except reinforce the notion that she or he doesn't deserve the same rights as other women or men.

I also don't think using the term transsexual would be any better, unless it was used as an adjective used to describe medical treatments, which are similar to medical treatments routinely prescribed by doctors if they wish to reinforce their prejudices about gender choices they forced in infancy or childhood on a person born intersexed.

It seems to most of us that GLBT groups only reinforce the othering that the mainstream media engages in when it issues guidelines for using terminology that dismiss people trying to live productive lives as men or women, instead making a few details of a persons life into that entire person to use for their own political agendas. By marginalizing others they and the media can make people who are only relatively "normal" feel good about themselves, at all our expense.

Oh, and Caroline Cossey (Tula) was born mildly intersexed, but like most of us was treated as a transsexual as we grew older.

CaroL

CaroL

Thanks Carol

Whilst I understand what you're saying, I was very careful to word my piece carefully. I know the difference between cross-dressers and transsexuals and I had hoped I had made that point in the piece itself.

I also hoped that by telling a potted history of my friend's challenge with becoming herself, that I was supportive and not trying to upset anyone as I know people passing judgement can be so hurtful - I've had a life full of it myself.

I didn't expect to get it completely right, but as Kris said, as a short introduction, it goes further than most in trying to get the reality of what it's like across. I hope you can forgive this old fart for getting things a little skewed.

Jessica
I don't just look it, I'm totally supportive of you all.

G W Bush

Our former president had an aversion to experts. At times, even though I hate the very thought, I must agree with him.

Nick is trying to help people understand and did an excellent job.

You are establishing a political agenda -- and would rightfully lose most readers at about paragraph three.

Angela Rasch (Jill M I)

Angela Rasch (Jill M I)

Thanks to everyone

I knew I was probably treading on thin ice to do what I did, but I think that overall, it turned out rather well once I'd corrected the mistakes.

I'd like to thank everyone who took the time out to take a peek at my article and comment, or just read it. I wasn't gunning for perfection and obviously this showed, but then you can't please all the people all the time, can you?

My thanks to Angela (Jill M I) for the above comment. We don't always see eye to eye, but in this case, I would like to thank her for seeing through the rough areas to the underlying message and above all taking note of who the target audience was likely to be.

I will probably be doing more on this, but from a different angle so I don't have to worry about treading on any political agendas and with your permission, would like the opportunity to call upon you again at some point.

Thanks again to all of you for participating.

Hugs

Nick B

Jessica
I don't just look it, I'm totally in your debt

Interesting...

You missed a few opportunities, and as others indicate your description of differences between cross dressers (which seems to only apply to males wearing attire traditionally attributed to females; females are allowed to wear male clothing with much less stigma.) and transsexuals (mind/body mismatch) and you leave out the entire intersex issue.

1) One thing I've used that helps some people get the idea of the mind-body mismatch is handedness (left vs. right)... Specially with lefties and older ones at that. Ask them "how do you know you're left handed?"... The answer is just "because I do" usually. And, at that, for those with even a little openness, the light starts to dawn. (This one I posted on your blog.)

2) On the "God doesn't make mistakes" line & rebuttal.
Assuming you are one that believes in god, and that god directs who we are... Who says a mistake was made. Perhaps we are "made" with the mix-up to provide another hurdle. Being who we really are is just harder than it is for those who are born in a body that matches their mind. Maybe we (& those around us) need to learn something that our work to achieve who we are will help us and them learn. Etc.

Thanks,
Anne