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I came across Scrivener and wondered if anybody else was using it. If so, how does this compare to writing just in word? Does it help you focus and plan better?

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Yeah, Scrivener...

bryony marsh's picture

That was the claim of Scrivener as I understood it: that it’ll help you focus by eliminating distractions. I picked it up as part of a bundle of writer-type tools, but I never really warmed to it. I don’t know if it’s better now, but at the time they hadn’t really polished the user interface to reflect the tremendous increase in screen resolution that’s the norm nowadays. It just wasn’t a good user experience. If you’re working on an older machine it might be fine, but at 3456 × 2234 it looked pretty awful.

I do most of my writing in Apple’s Pages application. If you hide the formatting controls (one click to toggle) you’ve got a plain, unforgiving white page in which to do your thing, with no clutter at all. I find it more stable than the Microsoft offering, to the point where I’ve never lost any writing. Microsoft Word is a useful file exchange format, but I seldom actually open a document in Word unless it’s a form and I need to preserve the pagination.

Ultimately, though, the best word processor is whatever works for you. If you have to think about how to ‘drive’ it, you’re not writing!

Sugar and Spiiice – TG Fiction by Bryony Marsh

I used to use word, but a few

leeanna19's picture

I used to use word, but a few sites I post on have weird page widths. When I cut and paste into them the paragraphs were off. I just use notepad and the free version of Grammarly now. I have fewer spelling mistakes than I did using when word too.

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Leeanna

I'm a big fan of Scrivener

I have a lot of applications for entering text of various kinds into files but Scrivener is without a doubt the only one I would consider for any sort of long-form fiction. It's not so much that it's a distraction free environment, it's just a tool that's tailored to the job of writing fiction.

I wrote a novel in the app and the first thing I was able to do was capture series of notes on all the characters, locations, timelines, etc. This was invaluable for managing continuity and structure. Next I sketched out all the rough chapters. Between the notes and the chapter outline it was easy to write up quick notes in each placeholder chapter as to what major plot points, foreshadowing bits, etc needed to happen when.

After that was in place it was pretty easy to reevaluate and rework things until there was a clear arc, and then it was just a case of filling in the placeholders with actual text.

Could I do that in Word? I guess. I could probably have done it in a series of plain text files as well. You could make anything work if you put the effort into it. Scrivener already had the tools I need and arranged it in an interface that was easy to work with. It displayed the organization of the book in major sections, lists of chapters, and a separate series of related notes. If you can afford it I would highly recommend it.

The one thing that Scrivener did not do was provide an easy way to track and diff changes made by my editor. For that I had to export from Scrivener to Word, exchange the Word document, then manually apply changes back in Scrivener. That wasn't the best experience, but other than that it was perfect.

Hoping to read another classic from you

SammyC's picture

As the author of one of the finest novels I've ever read, "Being Christina Chase," is it too much to hope that you may once again bless us with another manifestation of your inestimable ability to plumb our souls and look deeply into our very core? I'm sure I speak for the teeming thousands who enjoyed "Being Christina Chase" immensely (and have undoubtedly re-read it over and over again).

Hugs,

Sammy

I heartily second that motion!

D. Eden's picture

I absolutely love Being Christina Chase and have re-read it many times!

Would love to see more work by a great story teller.

D. Eden

Dum Vivimus, Vivamus

Scrivener is a great tool

erin's picture

I use scrivener for most of my writing. My experience pretty much parallels Admiral Krunch's.

Hugs,
Erin

= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.

Using Scrivener for over 10 years

persephone's picture

Scrivener takes a little while to learn how to use but, in my experience, it repays the investment.

Yes, it allows you to remove any distraction onscreen when writing.
Yes it has lots of useful ways to build a plan for a story, including supporting notes, character summaries etc.
It also has some nifty little tools tucked away (for example word count and progress management, plus character name generation by nationality/gender etc.)

If you also plan on working with a publisher it can auto format your work into a range of formats that editors expect.

To be honest any word processor will work, it's just that Scrivener makes things a lot easier if you are working with longer or more complex projects.

Persephone

Non sum qualis eram

I've used Scrivener...

Scrivener is great and has a lot of bells and whistles, which I rarely used. I started using yWriter. Similar to Scrivener with less of a learning curve and is free to use unless you want to register. The unregistered version is not crippled in any way and there is no time limit.
Using yWriter for my work-in-progress!

Love it

Erisian's picture

I've been using Scrivener for my novels, and as they're a long continuing saga I've got them all loaded into one project for instant reference to anything. I'm sure I'm not using a ton of the tool's features, but having an area to have as many separate notes entry as needed and having all the chapters across five books (so far!) listed on the left panel and instantly accessible with a single click has simply been amazing. If you're writing a multi-POV story it makes reshuffling the order of chapters sooooo easy if you ever need to. Within each book I set up separate folders for each posted 'part', and each chapter has their own text entry in those - moving them around for which chapters go in which part is also a snap.

For individual pdf generation/compilation I've got separate projects for each book with the cover art and text setup and just drag/drop chapters from the 'Master' project to keep them up to date if I need to make a new pdf. Figuring out how to get that configured took a bit to do.

I also have a 4k display, but maybe because I've got the scaling set to 150% in windows I don't have any issues with Scrivener's GUI. And I cannot imagine trying to write or manage 600k+ words in LibreOffice or Word. Started out trying to do so and realized quickly that wasn't going to work, which is what led to trying out Scrivener after some web searching.

In a nutshell, I love it and shudder at the thought of not having it for my works.

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Maddy Bell's picture

it comes down to expectations? I manage to write in Libre (basically the same as Word) without any issues, distractions come from around me rather than the screen! I'm just about to start the 28th Gaby book, each of which is 80-100k words long, i have a character crib sheet if i need it but otherwise there are very few notes made, maybe a few key points which i keep at the bottom of the page i'm writing - always on the screen. Maybe its my organic writing method but i'd find all those folders and notes a bigger distraction than a pneumatic drill outside of the window! (and i've had that before now!).


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Madeline Anafrid Bell

I've been using it for years

A trusted friend and published author told me about it so I bought a copy. The part of the program I appreciate the most is the ability to keep everything, all my notes, research, pictures, etc, in one place that allows simple and easy access to all those while writing. This alone makes it much greater than using Word.

I have used Micorsoft Word and Google also, although with the changes in MS Office 365, I have dumped MS office and installed Libre Office as a replacement.

Now a days I mostly use Word to jot down ideas for stories on my desktop as it can be opened and closed quickly. And google as a backup storage area and place I can access from work when and if there are slow times that I can work on a story.

It's available for both Apple and Windows, (there is a version of it that can be installed for free on Linux). I have the older version and new version on my windows desktop, windows laptop and the newer version on my Macbook Pro. I grew so used to the old looks that I've been having a little difficulty adjusting to the new look. They do have a trial period so it can be downloaded and tried for a bit before you have to pay for it.

There is also another writing software called Y-Writer that is highly comparable to Scrivener and totally free. I've not use it as I had already purchased Scrivener prior to learning about its existence, but I have talked to some that use it and they swear by it.

We the willing, led by the unsure. Have been doing so much with so little for so long,
We are now qualified to do anything with nothing.