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Listen... I’m sorry that I have to post this but a dear friend of mine who was much loved for their stories on this site has decided that due to a few antagonistic comments repeatedly criticizing their characters and how said FICTIONAL CHARACTERS responds to situations presented to them in a FICTIONAL STORY was not in line with how that they felt that the FICTIONAL CHARACTERS created by this author should have reacted. As a result of this the author has pulled the entire story down and is considering leaving the community. Some may believe that this is an overreaction though I have seen that this seams to be a trend in which a reader disagrees with how a character reacts or behaves they blast it in the comments many authors feel a kinship as it were to their creations an seem to take such flaming of their work personal now I do not and am not suggesting that anyone censor themselves however I would ask that you consider this before you flame someone’s work
A. This is not your story so how do you know what a character would or wouldn’t do in a situation just because you would have done something different doesn’t mean that the FICTIONAL CHARACTER would do it the same way that you would if you don’t like it WRITE YOUR OWN STORY

B. If you don’t like it DONT READ IT

This is supposed to be an inclusive community and for the vast majority it is And I truly hope that it will remain such

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This goes back to another author Elrod

There was and still a story he posted that others felt the need to antagonize him over how the story went. They felt they had the right to say how the story was supposed to end which nearly ended him wanting to write more. SORRY FOLKS. Life isn't as sugar coated as Donna Reeds make believe fantasy world as with several other shows back in the day. Father Knows Best had actors with drug, alcohol and rape while working for an industry that wanted to have them portray a loving family in a make believe world.

The same goes for many other so called feel good shows. Look them up if you want. I don't care.

Even famous writers have their share of critics in how THEY KNOW BETTER than the writer of how said characters should react. As if they could know before it was even written.

Let's see you critics do better.

No to those that say they know how better they are in writing a story then post it. Let others become said judges to your piddling attempts of story creation, cookie cut characters with overly fairy tale endings that satisfy your needs but not likely mine. I have enough fantasies to keep me happy without having to attack others with their writings.

At least they are doing more than said some who say they could but not...

Nuff said.

This Isn't a Comment...

...about the original point; while I've been accused of writing my own story in the comments section, IMO at least, it's been years since I was antagonistic about the author's version in a public comment, and I don't think this is about me.

But the assertion that a person isn't qualified to raise an objection to something unless they've done it is absurd. There's a legitimate argument as to whether they know the degree of difficulty involved in avoiding the problem. But they certainly know what they've read (or listened to, or seen, or tasted, or experienced), and the reason they think it's not as good as it could or should be.

I don't have to write a 50,000 word story to know that when a character is trying to hide his or her return to a town, opening up a restaurant there under their real name isn't a good idea.

Or that it's a major copout to announce in the final chapter that the reason a real-world story doesn't reconcile the points we've been waiting for is because it was all a dream. (That author: "Well, you liked the first 95% of the story, right?")

Or even that there's something anticlimactic when the ultimate confrontation between the protagonist and his enemy that we've been awaiting occurs after both their vehicles tumble off a cliff in a third-party car accident, so they can both die with the satisfaction of knowing their adversary is dying too, but no interaction occurs. (That certainly doesn't invalidate the story. But it can leave a reader with the feeling that the author got tired of writing it and decided to clear the stage, even if that's not true. And I think a reader is qualified to point that out, though it's certainly less confrontational on that commenter's part to say that it could leave that impression, as opposed to accusing the author of having done so.)

Anyway, if (as you seem to be saying here) a reader feels that a story should be either sweeter or more raw than the one the author is providing, that's the reader's "fault" and not the author's. But I can't see how it makes any difference at all whether or not the commenter has written stories. Violating Erin's "friendly place" rule, or the "It's not about you" rule, creates the same problem no matter how often the commenter also posts stories here; the two factors have nothing in common.

Eric

You still don't get it...

You still don't get it...

you consistently offer critiques about authors that are unsolicited and unwanted. You are blaming the author for a small number of readers who can't get over themselves and accept that the plot point or character that they are taking issue with isnt' turning out how they thought they should. How is it the author's fault that the reader taking issue has their own preconceived notions about how things should go and how they shouldn't. You blame the author for "failing" when almost always it's one, maybe two people who are not able to comprehend the story enough to enjoy it. It's not a whole "suspension of disbelief" cop-out by the author, it's a reader who wants things their way.

Not everyone on here accepts your direction, unless they ask you for it you shouldn't tell them how they should do things differently and why. It's not your place and it's not acceptable to do it- just because you do it f or a lot of writers does not mean it should be done for all.

I'm told STFU more times in a day than most people get told in a lifetime

you

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Could of course just ignore the negative posters.

I have to say that it's getting a bit old all this 'i'm pulling my stories because x said' which seems to happen about once a month. If you are going to pull everything and leave BC that's your choice, you wouldn't be the first (or indeed the last) but if you are staying please end all this drama.


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Madeline Anafrid Bell

While I can see your point

While I can see your point Eric and in general would agree in the circumstance you presented that is not however what I am referring to i’m referring to the constant tearing apart of how a character would react when’s say approached by a bully whether or not said character would get up and leave him let the bully continue to bully them extraneous circumstances ie. the bullies a family member not withstanding especially when the character in question is so off in their own head trying to figure out their own life that they barely realize what’s going on and just go with the flow around them

Pope said it best

His Essay on Criticism begins:

'Tis hard to say, if greater want of skill
Appear in writing or in judging ill;
But, of the two, less dang'rous is th' offence
To tire our patience, than mislead our sense.
Some few in that, but numbers err in this,
Ten censure wrong for one who writes amiss;
A fool might once himself alone expose,
Now one in verse makes many more in prose.

I recommend it.

I try never to be negative to a writer; I know how writers bare their soul online/in print. Try to find something positive to say; even if it is along the lines "I hated your ending, but it was so powerful it moved me. I wish it could have been different, but I know it is your story and has to be true to your spirit(s)."

I once told JF Gonzalez (a horror writer) that I hated HIM for writing one of his extreme books [Maternal Instinct]. He asked my why, and I told him it was so strong that I was immersed in the book's evil. He said that was ok: getting a strong visceral response form readers was what he wanted to get. I also had read it 3 times, when he asked me to proof different editions....

sad

I am sorry they feel this way, and this is happening to them....I hope for all the best for them :'(

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With Love and Light, and Smiles so Bright!

Erin Amelia Fletcher

kind of know how it feels.

on my latest story chapter I wrote, I had a very dismissive post saying that a character shouldn't relay the information that another character had mental illness, and that said other character was " just a bitch". No, as the author, I know my intentions for the characters. Don't presume to know better than me.