Just went to a local thrift store where no one pays much attention to what others are doing and tried on various pant sizes. 30" mens relaxed fit slip off my waist and sit around my crotch, 29" mens relaxed fit compress my hips and still want to slip off my waist, just can't with the hip compression going on.
Sizes 4-6 womens though... depending on style, are almost perfect. There was this pair of size 5 skinny jeans that were practically molded for me...
Now, I can't of course know that particular style's waist and hip, but the "typical" for a size 5 is supposed to be 26" waist and 36" hips according to wikipedia... whose accuracy may be questionable.
According to wikipedia, me being in a juniors size makes a fair bit of sense though, as I also seem to have a high bust, and I'm 5'4.5".
You know, I've always been a little bit pudgy, due to the depressions I've fought for so long, maybe this feminine physique was always hiding under all that adipose.
I -thought- I was fairly fit masculinely once, but perhaps I wasn't really, since I never actually went through a proper weight loss regime and went straight to toning like the dumb male I was pretending to be.
There's a problem though, junior and his twin brothers are very noticeable with the flat crotch of womens pant styles, and it's almost certain no one is going to mistake me for anything but a man wearing womens pants... I tried tucking my genitals and didn't have too much success.
Any tips would be welcome. Could always buy more shapers I suppose and just always wear shapers which seem to hold a tuck nicely, even encourages junior to invert himself most of the time.
I didn't actually buy anything at the thrift store, going to do that tomorrow before church at Target now that I have a fair idea of my size.