Where do trans women have more trouble?

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Do trans women have more problems in the UK or USA?

Much of America seems a lot more religious than the UK. Our official religion is Church Of England, that usually means going for christening', weddings and funerals for most of us. C of E accept trans people now.

http://www.unadulteratedlove.net/blog/2021/7/20/weve-made-ou...

I know not all of the hate is driven by religion, but America seems to have a "macho" culture. In the past English people may think "rum sort of fellow, what?" but not say anything.

I won't really know being a part time cd/tv , the lowest on the rung of the spectrum. The more I talk to you nice people on here makes me realise how much trans people have to put up with.

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I think

that you fail to realize how big and diverse the U.S. is. While I live in an area where people want to go back to a Disney world ( Christian, Lilly white, no "sexual deviants", only bad girls get pregnant, no need for welfare if people would work) that never really existed, other places are much more cosmopolitan, liberal and accepting of difference. In practice the two may be only a few miles apart with pockets of both in every state. And of course no place is really a solid block of one type or the other.

Hard to compare

It's hard to compare two countries that are so diverse. I'm pretty sure there are trans women in each country that are doing quite well and some in each that are going through hell.

First of all, as Greybeard points out, the USA is very diverse. Certain regions are generally considered more accepting: the Northeast, the Western parts of the West Coast states. But even in regions where bigots are in power on a state or even county level, you get individual communities or groups within a community that are tolerant and accepting. It all depends upon what mix of people you have and the history of the community or sub-community. There are good and bad people everywhere, and it's kind of the luck of the draw who prevails. "All politics is local," we say, and local can be very, very local. I hear of trans women -- and men and non-binaries -- who are managing okay in all kinds of places, including ones where you'd think they'd get burned at the stake on sight.

It also depends upon the trans woman. I think if you're able to make connections to people in your community, you do better because people have a harder time trashing someone they know as a person. And people tend to respond to you as you present yourself; it helps to go into encounters expecting the best of people. I've lived in my village (NYC suburb) for decades, and have always tried to be open and friendly and kind and assume the best of people, and so far, it has worked out well. The people who were aware of my existence in the first place have known me before, during, and after my transition, and they don't seem to have a problem with me.

It also depends upon what social group you are in. Black and hispanic trans women have more trouble, partly because their communities tend to be more socially conservative and are on the average less accepting of people being LGBT, and partly because Black and Hispanic people as a whole get treated pretty badly.

It's also hard to compare because we in the USA mostly know about conditions in the UK from news reports, whether in the mainstream media or in the various LGBT media, and the UK press doesn't seem to put much stock in being truthful (sort of like Fox News in the US.) It also appears to be pretty transphobic, and actually pretty bigoted and fond of bullying in general. We also hear rather nasty things about various politicians from all the major parties, but we don't hear much about how supportive or non-supportive each party is on the whole. (Well, I think I can guess how the UKIP is and maybe the Tories as well.) We hear about trans people who have suffered horrible mistreatment, but not those who are fully accepted and integrated into their communities. We can't really put it in perspective.

Size difference

Back in 2015 I toured the UK in a rental car. I was amazed by the amount of history crammed into the UK. I ended my brief tour with the 2015 Gabyfest. That I was able to do such a tour in just 2 weeks. Landed at London, drove to Dover, Up to York, Up to Hadrians Wall, then Edinburgh, across Scotland to the west coast, took the ferry to N Ireland, then down to Dublin, took the ferry to Wales, down to Stonehenge, then the Gabyfest, back to London to fly home.
The website I attach is a map comparison with the UK superimposed upon the US. It would take months to attempt a similar tour of the US.
www.mylifeelsewhere.com/country-size-comparison/united-state...

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